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==My New Proposed Policy==
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===Capitalized/Title Case===
==Wonky/inconsistent capitalization in the manuals==
*acronyms (RoE, AB, SoD, HotA)
The capitalization in the manuals is so wonky and inconsistent I really want to just throw it out and stick to proper language (only capitalizing proper nouns and words that are in actual titles (and only the first word of a sentence)). <span class='plainlinks'>[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Capital_letters Wikipedia considers section headings]</span> the same as sentences with only the first letter being capitalized. <span class='plainlinks'>[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Naming_conventions_(capitalization) Wikipedia also recommends]</span> not capitalizing the second or subsequent words in an article title (unless the title is a proper name). I would prefer to follow the wikipedia naming conventions and using them as our go to authority. [[File:Hero Stormblessed small.gif|→ima|link=user:imahero]] 09:30, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
*companies (New World Computing, The 3DO Company, Ubisoft)
:im afraid the only effect the new rule list will have its someone gillging after finding this page in ten years once again. as for me, i think we should stick to in-game 'capitalize it all' style. a player has a full right not to know if the manual exists at all, but ull get nowhere from 'the Labyrinth is guarded by several Minotaurs' window. that means all ur lowercase list is going up except for the individual terms. besides, with 'skeletons and skeleton warriors' we are losing 'Skeletons' as the basic tier one necropolis creatures and 'skeletons' as both basic and upgraded ones.
*heroes (Caitlin, Solmyr, Dessa)
:fully capitalized page names look weird to me either.  
*places (Erathia, Bracada, Krewlod)
:and im not sure if the general wiki naming conventions can be of any use for us. were not describing some birds or minerals here - our object is complex enough and already has its own capitalization system. sacrificing this system in the name of abstract wiki gods will cause nothing but confusion for the users. --[[User:GroundhogYear|GroundhogYear]] ([[User talk:GroundhogYear|talk]]) 10:01, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
===Lowercase===
:what is much more important for me now is the search previews. 'archery heroes 3' shows heroes with starting archery list. 'armorer heroes 3' shows fanopinion stuff. im scared --[[User:GroundhogYear|GroundhogYear]] ([[User talk:GroundhogYear|talk]]) 10:09, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
*buildings (village hall, town hall, city hall, capitol, fort, citadel, castle, tavern)
::I could use my bot to fix everything. [[File:Hero Stormblessed small.gif|→ima|link=user:imahero]] 10:17, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
*classes (alchemist, battle mage)
:::is this a threat? --[[User:GroundhogYear|GroundhogYear]] ([[User talk:GroundhogYear|talk]]) 10:18, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
*creatures (angel, archangel)
::::This is an option we have on the table. If we were not wanting to consider this because of the workload we could offload the work to a bot. That's all. [[File:Hero Stormblessed small.gif|→ima|link=user:imahero]] 10:24, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
*individual terms (hero, experience points, spell points, movement points)
:::::but 'to fix everything' sounded quite thanos-like. and look what i got right after that message: https://snipboard.io/b01En6.jpg --[[User:GroundhogYear|GroundhogYear]] ([[User talk:GroundhogYear|talk]]) 12:57, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
*primary skills (attack, defense, knowledge, power)
::::::[[File:Hero Thanos small.gif|→ima|link=user:imahero]] 13:03, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
*spells (haste, magic arrow, chain lightning)
*war machines (catapult, ballista, first aid tent, ammo cart)
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==Wonky/Inconsistent Capitalization in the Manuals==
The capitalization in the manuals is so wonky and inconsistent I really want to just throw it out and stick to proper language (only capitalizing proper nouns and words that are in actual titles (and only the first word of a sentence)). [[File:Hero Stormblessed small.gif|→ima|link=user:imahero]] 08:09, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
:<span class='plainlinks'>[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Capital_letters Wikipedia considers section headings]</span> the same as sentences with only the first letter being capitalized. [[File:Hero Stormblessed small.gif|→ima|link=user:imahero]] 08:30, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
::<span class='plainlinks'>[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Naming_conventions_(capitalization) Wikipedia also recommends]</span> not capitalizing the second or subsequent words in an article title (unless the title is a proper name). [[File:Hero Stormblessed small.gif|→ima|link=user:imahero]] 08:44, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
:::I'd would prefer following the wikipedia naming conventions and using them as our go to authority. Just keep in mind that we would need to change many page names to lower case if we choose to do this. [[File:Hero Stormblessed small.gif|→ima|link=user:imahero]] 09:30, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
::::im afraid the only effect the new rule list will have its someone gillging after finding this page in ten years once again. as for me, i think we should stick to in-game 'capitalize it all' style. a player has a full right not to know if the manual exists at all, but ull get nowhere from 'the Labyrinth is guarded by several Minotaurs' window. that means all ur lowercase list is going up except for the individual terms. besides, with 'skeletons and skeleton warriors' we are losing 'Skeletons' as the basic tier one necropolis creatures and 'skeletons' as both basic and upgraded ones.
::::fully capitalized page names look weird to me either.  
::::and im not sure if the general wiki naming conventions can be of any use for us. were not describing some birds or minerals here - our object is complex enough and already has its own capitalization system. sacrificing this system in the name of abstract wiki gods will cause nothing but confusion for the users. --[[User:GroundhogYear|GroundhogYear]] ([[User talk:GroundhogYear|talk]]) 10:01, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
:::::what is much more important for me now is the search previews. 'archery heroes 3' shows heroes with starting archery list. 'armorer heroes 3' shows fanopinion stuff. im scared --[[User:GroundhogYear|GroundhogYear]] ([[User talk:GroundhogYear|talk]]) 10:09, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
::::::I could use my bot to fix everything. [[File:Hero Stormblessed small.gif|→ima|link=user:imahero]] 10:17, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
:::::::is this a threat? --[[User:GroundhogYear|GroundhogYear]] ([[User talk:GroundhogYear|talk]]) 10:18, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
::::::::This is an option we have on the table. If we were not wanting to consider this because of the workload we could offload the work to a bot. That's all. [[File:Hero Stormblessed small.gif|→ima|link=user:imahero]] 10:24, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 20:00, 2 December 2023

Wonky/inconsistent capitalization in the manuals

The capitalization in the manuals is so wonky and inconsistent I really want to just throw it out and stick to proper language (only capitalizing proper nouns and words that are in actual titles (and only the first word of a sentence)). Wikipedia considers section headings the same as sentences with only the first letter being capitalized. Wikipedia also recommends not capitalizing the second or subsequent words in an article title (unless the title is a proper name). I would prefer to follow the wikipedia naming conventions and using them as our go to authority. →ima 09:30, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

im afraid the only effect the new rule list will have its someone gillging after finding this page in ten years once again. as for me, i think we should stick to in-game 'capitalize it all' style. a player has a full right not to know if the manual exists at all, but ull get nowhere from 'the Labyrinth is guarded by several Minotaurs' window. that means all ur lowercase list is going up except for the individual terms. besides, with 'skeletons and skeleton warriors' we are losing 'Skeletons' as the basic tier one necropolis creatures and 'skeletons' as both basic and upgraded ones.
fully capitalized page names look weird to me either.
and im not sure if the general wiki naming conventions can be of any use for us. were not describing some birds or minerals here - our object is complex enough and already has its own capitalization system. sacrificing this system in the name of abstract wiki gods will cause nothing but confusion for the users. --GroundhogYear (talk) 10:01, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
what is much more important for me now is the search previews. 'archery heroes 3' shows heroes with starting archery list. 'armorer heroes 3' shows fanopinion stuff. im scared --GroundhogYear (talk) 10:09, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
I could use my bot to fix everything. →ima 10:17, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
is this a threat? --GroundhogYear (talk) 10:18, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
This is an option we have on the table. If we were not wanting to consider this because of the workload we could offload the work to a bot. That's all. →ima 10:24, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
but 'to fix everything' sounded quite thanos-like. and look what i got right after that message: https://snipboard.io/b01En6.jpg --GroundhogYear (talk) 12:57, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
→ima 13:03, 17 May 2021 (UTC)