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==To Do==
==To Do==
* Update switch to use ima's new option in the top right corner of the wiki.
# Add 4 radio buttons at the top top switch between possible menus.
** This will not be useful for this page at all since there will be 4 menu screens that need their own separate buttons (switches) to change the menu that will be shown, and I think it is best to have them all shown like in my proof of concept so users are able to freely switch between them with little confusion. [[File:Hero Cosmos small.gif|link=special:contributions/phasma|→ Phasma]] 15:11, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
#* Currently, the switch only allows for 2 options (hence why 2 separate pages that switch individually are currently shown). Modify the switch (or use an updated {{tl|srctabs}}) to allow for 4 options.
** Would it be possible to ALSO have a switch option on the main page? It may make it easier for people to find the option. --[[User:Legate|Legate]] ([[User talk:Legate|talk]]) 14:34, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
#** Didn't see this comment until now, but I think if the image button idea won't work or for whatever reason isn't followed up on, I definitely think this is the right way to go about changing the menus. [[File:Hero Cosmos small.gif|link=special:contributions/phasma|→ Phasma]] 17:46, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
*** See above point. [[File:Hero Cosmos small.gif|link=special:contributions/phasma|→ Phasma]] 15:11, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
# Add links/bottom text from current Main page
* Add links/bottom text from current Main page
#* Evaluate whether we have the right links down bottom
** Evaluate whether we have the right links down bottom
# Add towns w/ icons off to the right.
* Incorporate Csaros' images to go with the links?
#* This will be done with an image map to prevent the need to code a table. [[File:Hero Cosmos small.gif|link=special:contributions/phasma|→ Phasma]] 15:11, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
** I don't think there should be any more images or links on the main page since it is visual clutter and I don't think anyone is going to want to directly navigate to anything important that isn't already in the menus I have outlined. [[File:Hero Cosmos small.gif|link=special:contributions/phasma|→ Phasma]] 15:11, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
#** Interesting, I haven't heard of an image map before :)! What does the image map give us that a table wouldn't? The ability to arrange the towns in something other than a strict grid? In my mind, I was envisioning having the towns in a single vertical column to the right of the main page to save on horizontal space. --[[User:Legate|Legate]] ([[User talk:Legate|talk]]) 15:49, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
** Would this make this screen too busy? Should we just leave the text? --[[User:Legate|Legate]] ([[User talk:Legate|talk]]) 14:34, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
#** Image maps allow the linking of pages to certain clickable areas in an image; for example, a table can be prerendered at a specific size and certain areas of it can be clickable, which will then link to certain pages. It just eliminates the need to code a whole table and just have it as an image that can easily be positioned anywhere on the page but with clickable areas. [[File:Hero Cosmos small.gif|link=special:contributions/phasma|→ Phasma]] 16:39, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
* Add towns w/ icons off to the right.
** This will be done with an image map to prevent the need to code a table. [[File:Hero Cosmos small.gif|link=special:contributions/phasma|→ Phasma]] 15:11, 25 January 2024 (UTC)


==Thoughts==
==Thoughts==
* Maybe move the button column a little further to the right? Center it in the negative space in that page of the background? --[[User:Legate|Legate]] ([[User talk:Legate|talk]]) 14:34, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
* Maybe move the button column a little further to the right? Center it in the negative space in that page of the background? --[[User:Legate|Legate]] ([[User talk:Legate|talk]]) 14:34, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
** I looked at the in-game menu and the buttons are very slightly shifted to the right. I temporarily included it on your main page for reference. Feel free to delete/comment it out.
** With the changes, this now looks perfect to me. --[[User:Legate|Legate]] ([[User talk:Legate|talk]]) 18:10, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
* Maybe consider switching the magic arrow animation to a magic arrow spell scroll? May be more recognizable? --[[User:Legate|Legate]] ([[User talk:Legate|talk]]) 14:34, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
* Maybe consider switching the magic arrow animation to a magic arrow spell scroll? May be more recognizable? --[[User:Legate|Legate]] ([[User talk:Legate|talk]]) 14:34, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
* For the Campaign menu, the button pics are cool, but a little off-putting as they are never seen in game (except Frederick). Maybe instead use an upscaled version of the normal expansion icons? --[[User:Legate|Legate]] ([[User talk:Legate|talk]]) 14:34, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
* For the Campaign menu, the button pics are cool, but a little off-putting as they are never seen in game (except Frederick). Maybe instead use an upscaled version of the normal expansion icons? --[[User:Legate|Legate]] ([[User talk:Legate|talk]]) 14:34, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
** <s>I will need to recreate them from scratch since I'm not going to cut them out from their backgrounds - that's a last resort because of how annoying that would be - but I'm doing that today. [[File:Hero Cosmos small.gif|link=special:contributions/phasma|→ Phasma]] 15:14, 25 January 2024 (UTC)</s>
** All done & changed now. [[File:Hero Cosmos small.gif|link=special:contributions/phasma|→ Phasma]] 16:49, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
** I personally like this a lot better than the other icons.  What is your preference? --[[User:Legate|Legate]] ([[User talk:Legate|talk]]) 18:10, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
** I prefer them too, especially since I've been able to standardise the text since I've made them ALL from scratch now :) [[File:Hero Cosmos small.gif|link=special:contributions/phasma|→ Phasma]] 18:18, 25 January 2024 (UTC)


==Questions==
==Design Decisions==
* What are you planning on doing with that 2nd "Main Page" down bottom?
# Incorporate Csaros' images to go with the links? Would this make this screen too busy? Should we just leave the text? --[[User:Legate|Legate]] ([[User talk:Legate|talk]]) 14:34, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
** Temporary because I need a template like in my proof of concepts that will allow for buttons to remain on screen at all times and change the main menu upon being clicked. This is just the code for the other menus, separate from the first one, since the current switch template only allows for 2 sets of data and I haven't figured out how to code a new one for 4 sets of data yet. [[File:Hero Cosmos small.gif|link=special:contributions/phasma|→ Phasma]] 15:11, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
#* ANSWER: No. I don't think there should be any more images or links on the main page since it is visual clutter and I don't think anyone is going to want to directly navigate to anything important that isn't already in the menus I have outlined. [[File:Hero Cosmos small.gif|link=special:contributions/phasma|→ Phasma]] 15:11, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
#* Good point. I agree. --[[User:Legate|Legate]] ([[User talk:Legate|talk]]) 15:49, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
# Update switch to use ima's new option in the top right corner of the wiki.
#* ANSWER: Not used for this page. This will not be useful for this page at all since there will be 4 menu screens that need their own separate buttons (switches) to change the menu that will be shown, and I think it is best to have them all shown like in my proof of concept so users are able to freely switch between them with little confusion. [[File:Hero Cosmos small.gif|link=special:contributions/phasma|→ Phasma]] 15:11, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
 
==Notes==
# Preference question: Would you prefer I don't touch that main page and just make any comments here? You are doing great work on this menu and I'm not looking to annoy you :) --[[User:Legate|Legate]] ([[User talk:Legate|talk]]) 16:02, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
#* I can always see edits to the page so I don't mind at all - if anything I can just change things back or edit from your edits! [[File:Hero Cosmos small.gif|link=special:contributions/phasma|→ Phasma]] 16:49, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
 
==Template/Tabs==
This would be so much easier if these things were each in their own template! –[[user_talk:imahero|imahero]] 18:28, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
: I added a tabs variant and it is hilariously all on a single line. –[[user_talk:imahero|imahero]] 18:29, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
:: Oh this is awesome! If we're sticking with the tab buttons as opposed to icons then there's no need for the icons. I think it'd still be good to have "Main Menu (Complete)" and "Main Menu (HotA)" for a better user experience, but this is great to see in a more functional state! [[File:Hero Cosmos small.gif|link=special:contributions/phasma|→ Phasma]] 20:40, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 22:04, 26 January 2024

To Do[edit | hide | hide all]

  1. Add 4 radio buttons at the top top switch between possible menus.
    • Currently, the switch only allows for 2 options (hence why 2 separate pages that switch individually are currently shown). Modify the switch (or use an updated {{srctabs}}) to allow for 4 options.
      • Didn't see this comment until now, but I think if the image button idea won't work or for whatever reason isn't followed up on, I definitely think this is the right way to go about changing the menus. → Phasma 17:46, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
  2. Add links/bottom text from current Main page
    • Evaluate whether we have the right links down bottom
  3. Add towns w/ icons off to the right.
    • This will be done with an image map to prevent the need to code a table. → Phasma 15:11, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
      • Interesting, I haven't heard of an image map before :)! What does the image map give us that a table wouldn't? The ability to arrange the towns in something other than a strict grid? In my mind, I was envisioning having the towns in a single vertical column to the right of the main page to save on horizontal space. --Legate (talk) 15:49, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
      • Image maps allow the linking of pages to certain clickable areas in an image; for example, a table can be prerendered at a specific size and certain areas of it can be clickable, which will then link to certain pages. It just eliminates the need to code a whole table and just have it as an image that can easily be positioned anywhere on the page but with clickable areas. → Phasma 16:39, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

Thoughts[edit | hide]

  • Maybe move the button column a little further to the right? Center it in the negative space in that page of the background? --Legate (talk) 14:34, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
    • I looked at the in-game menu and the buttons are very slightly shifted to the right. I temporarily included it on your main page for reference. Feel free to delete/comment it out.
    • With the changes, this now looks perfect to me. --Legate (talk) 18:10, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
  • Maybe consider switching the magic arrow animation to a magic arrow spell scroll? May be more recognizable? --Legate (talk) 14:34, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
  • For the Campaign menu, the button pics are cool, but a little off-putting as they are never seen in game (except Frederick). Maybe instead use an upscaled version of the normal expansion icons? --Legate (talk) 14:34, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
    • I will need to recreate them from scratch since I'm not going to cut them out from their backgrounds - that's a last resort because of how annoying that would be - but I'm doing that today. → Phasma 15:14, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
    • All done & changed now. → Phasma 16:49, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
    • I personally like this a lot better than the other icons. What is your preference? --Legate (talk) 18:10, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
    • I prefer them too, especially since I've been able to standardise the text since I've made them ALL from scratch now :) → Phasma 18:18, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

Design Decisions[edit | hide]

  1. Incorporate Csaros' images to go with the links? Would this make this screen too busy? Should we just leave the text? --Legate (talk) 14:34, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
    • ANSWER: No. I don't think there should be any more images or links on the main page since it is visual clutter and I don't think anyone is going to want to directly navigate to anything important that isn't already in the menus I have outlined. → Phasma 15:11, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
    • Good point. I agree. --Legate (talk) 15:49, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
  2. Update switch to use ima's new option in the top right corner of the wiki.
    • ANSWER: Not used for this page. This will not be useful for this page at all since there will be 4 menu screens that need their own separate buttons (switches) to change the menu that will be shown, and I think it is best to have them all shown like in my proof of concept so users are able to freely switch between them with little confusion. → Phasma 15:11, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

Notes[edit | hide]

  1. Preference question: Would you prefer I don't touch that main page and just make any comments here? You are doing great work on this menu and I'm not looking to annoy you :) --Legate (talk) 16:02, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
    • I can always see edits to the page so I don't mind at all - if anything I can just change things back or edit from your edits! → Phasma 16:49, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

Template/Tabs[edit | hide]

This would be so much easier if these things were each in their own template! –imahero 18:28, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

I added a tabs variant and it is hilariously all on a single line. –imahero 18:29, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
Oh this is awesome! If we're sticking with the tab buttons as opposed to icons then there's no need for the icons. I think it'd still be good to have "Main Menu (Complete)" and "Main Menu (HotA)" for a better user experience, but this is great to see in a more functional state! → Phasma 20:40, 25 January 2024 (UTC)