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==To Do==
==To Do==
# Add 4 radio buttons at the top top switch between possible menus.
# Add 4 radio buttons at the top top switch between possible menus.
#* Currently, the switch only allows for 2 options (hence why 2 separate pages that switch individually are currently shown. Modify the switch (or use an updated {{tl|srctabs}}) to allow for 4 options.
#* Currently, the switch only allows for 2 options (hence why 2 separate pages that switch individually are currently shown). Modify the switch (or use an updated {{tl|srctabs}}) to allow for 4 options.
#** Didn't see this comment until now, but I think if the image button idea won't work or for whatever reason isn't followed up on, I definitely think this is the right way to go about changing the menus. [[File:Hero Cosmos small.gif|link=special:contributions/phasma|→ Phasma]] 17:46, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
#** Didn't see this comment until now, but I think if the image button idea won't work or for whatever reason isn't followed up on, I definitely think this is the right way to go about changing the menus. [[File:Hero Cosmos small.gif|link=special:contributions/phasma|→ Phasma]] 17:46, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
# Add links/bottom text from current Main page
# Add links/bottom text from current Main page
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#* This will be done with an image map to prevent the need to code a table. [[File:Hero Cosmos small.gif|link=special:contributions/phasma|→ Phasma]] 15:11, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
#* This will be done with an image map to prevent the need to code a table. [[File:Hero Cosmos small.gif|link=special:contributions/phasma|→ Phasma]] 15:11, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
#** Interesting, I haven't heard of an image map before :)! What does the image map give us that a table wouldn't? The ability to arrange the towns in something other than a strict grid? In my mind, I was envisioning having the towns in a single vertical column to the right of the main page to save on horizontal space. --[[User:Legate|Legate]] ([[User talk:Legate|talk]]) 15:49, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
#** Interesting, I haven't heard of an image map before :)! What does the image map give us that a table wouldn't? The ability to arrange the towns in something other than a strict grid? In my mind, I was envisioning having the towns in a single vertical column to the right of the main page to save on horizontal space. --[[User:Legate|Legate]] ([[User talk:Legate|talk]]) 15:49, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
#*** Image maps allow the linking of pages to certain clickable areas in an image; for example, a table can be prerendered at a specific size and certain areas of it can be clickable, which will then link to certain pages. It just eliminates the need to code a whole table and just have it as an image that can easily be positioned anywhere on the page but with clickable areas. [[File:Hero Cosmos small.gif|link=special:contributions/phasma|→ Phasma]] 16:39, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
#** Image maps allow the linking of pages to certain clickable areas in an image; for example, a table can be prerendered at a specific size and certain areas of it can be clickable, which will then link to certain pages. It just eliminates the need to code a whole table and just have it as an image that can easily be positioned anywhere on the page but with clickable areas. [[File:Hero Cosmos small.gif|link=special:contributions/phasma|→ Phasma]] 16:39, 25 January 2024 (UTC)


==Thoughts==
==Thoughts==
* Maybe move the button column a little further to the right? Center it in the negative space in that page of the background? --[[User:Legate|Legate]] ([[User talk:Legate|talk]]) 14:34, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
* Maybe move the button column a little further to the right? Center it in the negative space in that page of the background? --[[User:Legate|Legate]] ([[User talk:Legate|talk]]) 14:34, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
** I looked at the in-game menu and the buttons are very slightly shifted to the right. I temporarily included it on your main page for reference. Feel free to delete/comment it out.
** I looked at the in-game menu and the buttons are very slightly shifted to the right. I temporarily included it on your main page for reference. Feel free to delete/comment it out.
*** Preference question: Would you prefer I don't touch that main page and just make any comments here? You are doing great work on this menu and I'm not looking to annoy you :) --[[User:Legate|Legate]] ([[User talk:Legate|talk]]) 16:02, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
** With the changes, this now looks perfect to me. --[[User:Legate|Legate]] ([[User talk:Legate|talk]]) 18:10, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
**** I can always see edits to the page so I don't mind at all - if anything I can just change things back or edit from your edits! [[File:Hero Cosmos small.gif|link=special:contributions/phasma|→ Phasma]] 16:49, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
* Maybe consider switching the magic arrow animation to a magic arrow spell scroll? May be more recognizable? --[[User:Legate|Legate]] ([[User talk:Legate|talk]]) 14:34, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
* Maybe consider switching the magic arrow animation to a magic arrow spell scroll? May be more recognizable? --[[User:Legate|Legate]] ([[User talk:Legate|talk]]) 14:34, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
* For the Campaign menu, the button pics are cool, but a little off-putting as they are never seen in game (except Frederick). Maybe instead use an upscaled version of the normal expansion icons? --[[User:Legate|Legate]] ([[User talk:Legate|talk]]) 14:34, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
* For the Campaign menu, the button pics are cool, but a little off-putting as they are never seen in game (except Frederick). Maybe instead use an upscaled version of the normal expansion icons? --[[User:Legate|Legate]] ([[User talk:Legate|talk]]) 14:34, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
** <s>I will need to recreate them from scratch since I'm not going to cut them out from their backgrounds - that's a last resort because of how annoying that would be - but I'm doing that today. [[File:Hero Cosmos small.gif|link=special:contributions/phasma|→ Phasma]] 15:14, 25 January 2024 (UTC)</s>
** <s>I will need to recreate them from scratch since I'm not going to cut them out from their backgrounds - that's a last resort because of how annoying that would be - but I'm doing that today. [[File:Hero Cosmos small.gif|link=special:contributions/phasma|→ Phasma]] 15:14, 25 January 2024 (UTC)</s>
** All done & changed now. [[File:Hero Cosmos small.gif|link=special:contributions/phasma|→ Phasma]] 16:49, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
** All done & changed now. [[File:Hero Cosmos small.gif|link=special:contributions/phasma|→ Phasma]] 16:49, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
** I personally like this a lot better than the other icons.  What is your preference? --[[User:Legate|Legate]] ([[User talk:Legate|talk]]) 18:10, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
** I prefer them too, especially since I've been able to standardise the text since I've made them ALL from scratch now :) [[File:Hero Cosmos small.gif|link=special:contributions/phasma|→ Phasma]] 18:18, 25 January 2024 (UTC)


==Design Decisions==
==Design Decisions==
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# Update switch to use ima's new option in the top right corner of the wiki.
# Update switch to use ima's new option in the top right corner of the wiki.
#* ANSWER: Not used for this page. This will not be useful for this page at all since there will be 4 menu screens that need their own separate buttons (switches) to change the menu that will be shown, and I think it is best to have them all shown like in my proof of concept so users are able to freely switch between them with little confusion. [[File:Hero Cosmos small.gif|link=special:contributions/phasma|→ Phasma]] 15:11, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
#* ANSWER: Not used for this page. This will not be useful for this page at all since there will be 4 menu screens that need their own separate buttons (switches) to change the menu that will be shown, and I think it is best to have them all shown like in my proof of concept so users are able to freely switch between them with little confusion. [[File:Hero Cosmos small.gif|link=special:contributions/phasma|→ Phasma]] 15:11, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
==Notes==
# Preference question: Would you prefer I don't touch that main page and just make any comments here? You are doing great work on this menu and I'm not looking to annoy you :) --[[User:Legate|Legate]] ([[User talk:Legate|talk]]) 16:02, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
#* I can always see edits to the page so I don't mind at all - if anything I can just change things back or edit from your edits! [[File:Hero Cosmos small.gif|link=special:contributions/phasma|→ Phasma]] 16:49, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
==Template/Tabs==
This would be so much easier if these things were each in their own template! –[[user_talk:imahero|imahero]] 18:28, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
: I added a tabs variant and it is hilariously all on a single line. –[[user_talk:imahero|imahero]] 18:29, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
:: Oh this is awesome! If we're sticking with the tab buttons as opposed to icons then there's no need for the icons. I think it'd still be good to have "Main Menu (Complete)" and "Main Menu (HotA)" for a better user experience, but this is great to see in a more functional state! [[File:Hero Cosmos small.gif|link=special:contributions/phasma|→ Phasma]] 20:40, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 22:04, 26 January 2024

To Do[edit | hide | hide all]

  1. Add 4 radio buttons at the top top switch between possible menus.
    • Currently, the switch only allows for 2 options (hence why 2 separate pages that switch individually are currently shown). Modify the switch (or use an updated {{srctabs}}) to allow for 4 options.
      • Didn't see this comment until now, but I think if the image button idea won't work or for whatever reason isn't followed up on, I definitely think this is the right way to go about changing the menus. → Phasma 17:46, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
  2. Add links/bottom text from current Main page
    • Evaluate whether we have the right links down bottom
  3. Add towns w/ icons off to the right.
    • This will be done with an image map to prevent the need to code a table. → Phasma 15:11, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
      • Interesting, I haven't heard of an image map before :)! What does the image map give us that a table wouldn't? The ability to arrange the towns in something other than a strict grid? In my mind, I was envisioning having the towns in a single vertical column to the right of the main page to save on horizontal space. --Legate (talk) 15:49, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
      • Image maps allow the linking of pages to certain clickable areas in an image; for example, a table can be prerendered at a specific size and certain areas of it can be clickable, which will then link to certain pages. It just eliminates the need to code a whole table and just have it as an image that can easily be positioned anywhere on the page but with clickable areas. → Phasma 16:39, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

Thoughts[edit | hide]

  • Maybe move the button column a little further to the right? Center it in the negative space in that page of the background? --Legate (talk) 14:34, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
    • I looked at the in-game menu and the buttons are very slightly shifted to the right. I temporarily included it on your main page for reference. Feel free to delete/comment it out.
    • With the changes, this now looks perfect to me. --Legate (talk) 18:10, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
  • Maybe consider switching the magic arrow animation to a magic arrow spell scroll? May be more recognizable? --Legate (talk) 14:34, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
  • For the Campaign menu, the button pics are cool, but a little off-putting as they are never seen in game (except Frederick). Maybe instead use an upscaled version of the normal expansion icons? --Legate (talk) 14:34, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
    • I will need to recreate them from scratch since I'm not going to cut them out from their backgrounds - that's a last resort because of how annoying that would be - but I'm doing that today. → Phasma 15:14, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
    • All done & changed now. → Phasma 16:49, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
    • I personally like this a lot better than the other icons. What is your preference? --Legate (talk) 18:10, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
    • I prefer them too, especially since I've been able to standardise the text since I've made them ALL from scratch now :) → Phasma 18:18, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

Design Decisions[edit | hide]

  1. Incorporate Csaros' images to go with the links? Would this make this screen too busy? Should we just leave the text? --Legate (talk) 14:34, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
    • ANSWER: No. I don't think there should be any more images or links on the main page since it is visual clutter and I don't think anyone is going to want to directly navigate to anything important that isn't already in the menus I have outlined. → Phasma 15:11, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
    • Good point. I agree. --Legate (talk) 15:49, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
  2. Update switch to use ima's new option in the top right corner of the wiki.
    • ANSWER: Not used for this page. This will not be useful for this page at all since there will be 4 menu screens that need their own separate buttons (switches) to change the menu that will be shown, and I think it is best to have them all shown like in my proof of concept so users are able to freely switch between them with little confusion. → Phasma 15:11, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

Notes[edit | hide]

  1. Preference question: Would you prefer I don't touch that main page and just make any comments here? You are doing great work on this menu and I'm not looking to annoy you :) --Legate (talk) 16:02, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
    • I can always see edits to the page so I don't mind at all - if anything I can just change things back or edit from your edits! → Phasma 16:49, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

Template/Tabs[edit | hide]

This would be so much easier if these things were each in their own template! –imahero 18:28, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

I added a tabs variant and it is hilariously all on a single line. –imahero 18:29, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
Oh this is awesome! If we're sticking with the tab buttons as opposed to icons then there's no need for the icons. I think it'd still be good to have "Main Menu (Complete)" and "Main Menu (HotA)" for a better user experience, but this is great to see in a more functional state! → Phasma 20:40, 25 January 2024 (UTC)