User talk:GroundhogYear: Difference between revisions
FirePaladin2 (talk | contribs) No edit summary |
m (Display the pic) |
||
(36 intermediate revisions by 6 users not shown) | |||
Line 4: | Line 4: | ||
:::Anyway, what happened? What's this stuff about Google cache? Did large parts of articles get deleted?--[[User:FirePaladin2|FirePaladin2]] ([[User talk:FirePaladin2|talk]]) 18:12, 5 March 2020 (UTC) | :::Anyway, what happened? What's this stuff about Google cache? Did large parts of articles get deleted?--[[User:FirePaladin2|FirePaladin2]] ([[User talk:FirePaladin2|talk]]) 18:12, 5 March 2020 (UTC) | ||
::::emm... try to find in edit histories any entry dated by jan-sep 2019. (spoiler: you wont find any). or just compare this: [[Creature bank]] and this: http://web.archive.org/web/20190804200919/http://heroes.thelazy.net/wiki/Creature_Bank --[[User:GroundhogYear|GroundhogYear]] ([[User talk:GroundhogYear|talk]]) 18:21, 5 March 2020 (UTC) | ::::emm... try to find in edit histories any entry dated by jan-sep 2019. (spoiler: you wont find any). or just compare this: [[Creature bank]] and this: http://web.archive.org/web/20190804200919/http://heroes.thelazy.net/wiki/Creature_Bank --[[User:GroundhogYear|GroundhogYear]] ([[User talk:GroundhogYear|talk]]) 18:21, 5 March 2020 (UTC) | ||
:::::So, basically, all edits dated by jan-sep 2019 were "deleted"?--[[User:FirePaladin2|FirePaladin2]] ([[User talk:FirePaladin2|talk]]) 18:24, 5 March 2020 (UTC) | :::::So, basically, all edits dated by jan-sep 2019 were "deleted"? Also, didn't Naga Bank give gems?--[[User:FirePaladin2|FirePaladin2]] ([[User talk:FirePaladin2|talk]]) 18:24, 5 March 2020 (UTC) | ||
::::::exactly. i remember the site being down for about a week. think it was cause of alices graduating from colleges and playing saxes for 5 years, but dont know for sure, u can ask terra about the details | |||
::::::and gems in nagabanks are HD-mod feature, in vanilla SoD they give sulfur --GroundhogYear (talk) 18:31, 5 March 2020 (UTC) | |||
:::::::I remember the site being down for a week. We should include the fact that it gives Gems in HD, since almost nobody plays without HD.--[[User:FirePaladin2|FirePaladin2]] ([[User talk:FirePaladin2|talk]]) 18:35, 5 March 2020 (UTC) | |||
::::::::i think its already included everywhere. but maybe it wont hurt to add more asterisks to emphasize. --[[User:GroundhogYear|GroundhogYear]] ([[User talk:GroundhogYear|talk]]) 18:40, 5 March 2020 (UTC) | |||
:::::::::lol, thought im goin crazy while editing gremlins and gargoyles --[[User:GroundhogYear|GroundhogYear]] ([[User talk:GroundhogYear|talk]]) 19:17, 5 March 2020 (UTC) | |||
==Gold Dragons== | |||
Found out what prevents Gold Dragons from being resurrected by Sacrifice: http://heroescommunity.com/viewthread.php3?TID=39912&pagenumber=23. It's not a bug, but the way the spell is made: first, the sacrifice part is a level 5 spell, but the 2nd part is actually just a regular Resurrection spell. Also, the wiki looks awesome thanks to you :) (HC uses this wiki many times on the forum for references).--[[User:FirePaladin2|FirePaladin2]] ([[User talk:FirePaladin2|talk]]) 23:48, 12 March 2020 (UTC) | |||
==Dragons, again== | |||
Look: we could say Azure Dragons are level 7, but add a bracket that says "10", since it might have been the devs' original intention to make them level 10, but they just couldn't add the level in the code itself and mess up all spells and skills (if you were a programmer, you would know how sh*tty stuff like that is and that it's better to leave them as level 7 in the code itself, but still consider them to be level x). I'm not saying we should delete/replace the 7, or just put the dragons in separate categories because of that.--[[User:FirePaladin2|FirePaladin2]] ([[User talk:FirePaladin2|talk]]) 15:11, 14 March 2020 (UTC) | |||
:Btw, I only added a trivia explaining this "conflict" on the respective units' pages, not changed anything.--[[User:FirePaladin2|FirePaladin2]] ([[User talk:FirePaladin2|talk]]) 15:13, 14 March 2020 (UTC) | |||
==Dendroids and content table== | |||
How to add a content table just like the [[Dendroids]] have to other creatures?--[[User:FirePaladin2|FirePaladin2]] ([[User talk:FirePaladin2|talk]]) 21:48, 20 March 2020 (UTC) | |||
:Don't worry, I figured it out.--[[User:FirePaladin2|FirePaladin2]] ([[User talk:FirePaladin2|talk]]) 22:05, 20 March 2020 (UTC) | |||
::just for the next generations reading all this in the years ahead: use <nowiki>__TOC__</nowiki> | |||
::for advanced magic u can explore https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Table_of_contents --[[User:GroundhogYear|GroundhogYear]] ([[User talk:GroundhogYear|talk]]) 14:42, 23 March 2020 (UTC) | |||
:::Thanks!--[[User:FirePaladin2|FirePaladin2]] ([[User talk:FirePaladin2|talk]]) 14:55, 23 March 2020 (UTC) | |||
==Punxsutawney== | |||
Finally left your hole I see. :) [[user:imahero|ima]] | |||
:be like me! --[[User:GroundhogYear|GroundhogYear]] ([[User talk:GroundhogYear|talk]]) 08:56, 14 March 2021 (UTC) | |||
::I guess I could finish my silly map project. Though I'd have to make it fun by automating as much as possible with code. [[user:imahero|ima]] 12:32, 14 March 2021 (UTC) | |||
:::ur silly manual project is working ok. and were not in a hurry here --[[User:GroundhogYear|GroundhogYear]] ([[User talk:GroundhogYear|talk]]) 16:29, 14 March 2021 (UTC) | |||
:::oh, and i think some maps were eaten by the Great Crash. google cache is not blessed enough for this kind of things | |||
== Unneeded explanation? == | |||
Hello mate, | |||
I don't think that information about evil troops in [[Angelic Alliance]] is unneeded. For me it was unclear, whether e.g imps or troglodytes are not affected by morale bonus only themselves (and therefore cancel morale bonus to good and neutral units who are still considered one faction), or cancel the whole morale bonus of the artifact, so that morale fully depends on number of towns represented in the army and other typical events (e.g with pikemen, imps, goblins, and gnolls morale would be -2, if the latter were correct). BTW I hadn't yet tested Angelic Alliance with Conflux (not in HotA) and neutral units, but can imagine that they work like Inferno and Dungeon ones (e.g in classical game, phoenix + pikeman + gnoll means morale 0). If so, feel free to add it.--[[User:Dread Knight|Dread Knight]] ([[User talk:Dread Knight|talk]]) 12:06, 5 May 2021 (UTC) | |||
:Maybe it needs a rewrite to be more succinct. Might also want to put this new (more succinct) explanation in a new section at the bottom. [[user:imahero|→ima]] 12:32, 5 May 2021 (UTC) | |||
::I am not native English speaker, thus if someone rewords my text, I will be very grateful.--[[User:Dread Knight|Dread Knight]] ([[User talk:Dread Knight|talk]]) 12:41, 5 May 2021 (UTC) | |||
:::[[Talk:Angelic Alliance#More discussion]] --[[User:GroundhogYear|GroundhogYear]] ([[User talk:GroundhogYear|talk]]) 17:47, 5 May 2021 (UTC) | |||
== Hi! == | |||
Perhaps you can help me or point out the admins of this project. Please pay attention to the [[User talk:Nick Bud#User page|topic]]. '''--''' ''[[User:Nick Bud|Nick Bud]] ([[User talk:Nick Bud|talk]]) 03:11, 25 May 2023 (UTC)'' | |||
== Hi, found you in Recent Changes, can you rename pages here? == | |||
I’m all positive the word in brackets does nothing good for this one: [[School of Magic (conceptual)]]. Such page wants to be linked instead of editors having to comma-list all four schools for clearance on every mention. [ip editor] 13:28, 28 July 2023 (UTC) | |||
: Do you mean you want a [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Templates template] that lists all four schools of magic? Such a thing could be created. As for renaming pages, it can be done by choosing "More" and then selecting "Move" from the dropdown list which will move the page to a new location. [[File:Hero Stormblessed small.gif|→ima|link=user:imahero]] 14:15, 28 July 2023 (UTC) | |||
:: we can play with the capitalization here, leaving 'School of Magic' for the map object and using 'school of magic' for the spell characteristic. its not the in-game term and is not capitalized in the manuals.--[[User:GroundhogYear|GroundhogYear]] ([[User talk:GroundhogYear|talk]]) 16:43, 28 July 2023 (UTC) | |||
:: Thanks but i don’t seem to have such options as an unregistered user and i won’t register (no need to create another [[user:VioletBrandon68]], is there?) I just wanted, upon reading somewhat slightly imperfect articles, to give a newbie explanation what Schools of Magics are, and created [[Schools of magic|the page]] but only then realized one [[School of Magic (conceptual)|already existed]], so my new one is a dupe and someone with proper rights now has to sort it out. I think the remaining page does not need any bracket comments in its title. [same ip editor] 19:08, 28 July 2023 (UTC) | |||
::: so i moved the 'conceptual' to [[schools of magic]] to keep its venerable edit history. your page had to be exterminated due to the moving mechanics, but i added ur text as a comment. u can delete it or use it to rearrange the existing page. i dont have any preferences here, kapteeni's and your versions look pretty similar to me. --[[User:GroundhogYear|GroundhogYear]] ([[User talk:GroundhogYear|talk]]) 23:44, 28 July 2023 (UTC) | |||
::: and no, there is never enough violets --[[User:GroundhogYear|GroundhogYear]] ([[User talk:GroundhogYear|talk]]) 23:45, 28 July 2023 (UTC) | |||
==For [[User:Legate|Legate]]== | |||
[[File:Orb_of_Tempestuous_Fire.gif]] ([[File_talk:Orb_of_Tempestuous_Fire.gif|talk]]) |
Latest revision as of 20:09, 8 December 2023
Only in HotA they are lvl 7. The fandom wiki of HoMM still considers them to be lvl 10, after the original editor.--FirePaladin2 (talk) 10:10, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
- meh, thought i wont need to restore all stuff about the dragons and the bless mechanics from the ground. stupid google cache didnt save adela's talk page.
- and cmon, homm3 is our specialty here, 'daddy said' is not enough, our point is how exactly it works in the game. and in the game all the target level-influenced spells show us the neutral dragons are lvl 7 both in SoD and HotA. and 'random lvl 7 dwelling' map object issue can be explained just as a balance feature: sharpshooters'/enchanters' dwellings cannot emerge as a random 4/6 lvl dwelling either.--GroundhogYear (talk) 11:36, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
- Anyway, what happened? What's this stuff about Google cache? Did large parts of articles get deleted?--FirePaladin2 (talk) 18:12, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
- emm... try to find in edit histories any entry dated by jan-sep 2019. (spoiler: you wont find any). or just compare this: Creature bank and this: http://web.archive.org/web/20190804200919/http://heroes.thelazy.net/wiki/Creature_Bank --GroundhogYear (talk) 18:21, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
- So, basically, all edits dated by jan-sep 2019 were "deleted"? Also, didn't Naga Bank give gems?--FirePaladin2 (talk) 18:24, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
- exactly. i remember the site being down for about a week. think it was cause of alices graduating from colleges and playing saxes for 5 years, but dont know for sure, u can ask terra about the details
- and gems in nagabanks are HD-mod feature, in vanilla SoD they give sulfur --GroundhogYear (talk) 18:31, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
- I remember the site being down for a week. We should include the fact that it gives Gems in HD, since almost nobody plays without HD.--FirePaladin2 (talk) 18:35, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
- i think its already included everywhere. but maybe it wont hurt to add more asterisks to emphasize. --GroundhogYear (talk) 18:40, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
- lol, thought im goin crazy while editing gremlins and gargoyles --GroundhogYear (talk) 19:17, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
- i think its already included everywhere. but maybe it wont hurt to add more asterisks to emphasize. --GroundhogYear (talk) 18:40, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
- I remember the site being down for a week. We should include the fact that it gives Gems in HD, since almost nobody plays without HD.--FirePaladin2 (talk) 18:35, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
- So, basically, all edits dated by jan-sep 2019 were "deleted"? Also, didn't Naga Bank give gems?--FirePaladin2 (talk) 18:24, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
- emm... try to find in edit histories any entry dated by jan-sep 2019. (spoiler: you wont find any). or just compare this: Creature bank and this: http://web.archive.org/web/20190804200919/http://heroes.thelazy.net/wiki/Creature_Bank --GroundhogYear (talk) 18:21, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
- Anyway, what happened? What's this stuff about Google cache? Did large parts of articles get deleted?--FirePaladin2 (talk) 18:12, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
- and cmon, homm3 is our specialty here, 'daddy said' is not enough, our point is how exactly it works in the game. and in the game all the target level-influenced spells show us the neutral dragons are lvl 7 both in SoD and HotA. and 'random lvl 7 dwelling' map object issue can be explained just as a balance feature: sharpshooters'/enchanters' dwellings cannot emerge as a random 4/6 lvl dwelling either.--GroundhogYear (talk) 11:36, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
Gold Dragons[edit | hide | hide all]
Found out what prevents Gold Dragons from being resurrected by Sacrifice: http://heroescommunity.com/viewthread.php3?TID=39912&pagenumber=23. It's not a bug, but the way the spell is made: first, the sacrifice part is a level 5 spell, but the 2nd part is actually just a regular Resurrection spell. Also, the wiki looks awesome thanks to you :) (HC uses this wiki many times on the forum for references).--FirePaladin2 (talk) 23:48, 12 March 2020 (UTC)
Dragons, again[edit | hide]
Look: we could say Azure Dragons are level 7, but add a bracket that says "10", since it might have been the devs' original intention to make them level 10, but they just couldn't add the level in the code itself and mess up all spells and skills (if you were a programmer, you would know how sh*tty stuff like that is and that it's better to leave them as level 7 in the code itself, but still consider them to be level x). I'm not saying we should delete/replace the 7, or just put the dragons in separate categories because of that.--FirePaladin2 (talk) 15:11, 14 March 2020 (UTC)
- Btw, I only added a trivia explaining this "conflict" on the respective units' pages, not changed anything.--FirePaladin2 (talk) 15:13, 14 March 2020 (UTC)
Dendroids and content table[edit | hide]
How to add a content table just like the Dendroids have to other creatures?--FirePaladin2 (talk) 21:48, 20 March 2020 (UTC)
- Don't worry, I figured it out.--FirePaladin2 (talk) 22:05, 20 March 2020 (UTC)
- just for the next generations reading all this in the years ahead: use __TOC__
- for advanced magic u can explore https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Table_of_contents --GroundhogYear (talk) 14:42, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks!--FirePaladin2 (talk) 14:55, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
Punxsutawney[edit | hide]
Finally left your hole I see. :) ima
- be like me! --GroundhogYear (talk) 08:56, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
- I guess I could finish my silly map project. Though I'd have to make it fun by automating as much as possible with code. ima 12:32, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
- ur silly manual project is working ok. and were not in a hurry here --GroundhogYear (talk) 16:29, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
- oh, and i think some maps were eaten by the Great Crash. google cache is not blessed enough for this kind of things
- I guess I could finish my silly map project. Though I'd have to make it fun by automating as much as possible with code. ima 12:32, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
Unneeded explanation?[edit | hide]
Hello mate,
I don't think that information about evil troops in Angelic Alliance is unneeded. For me it was unclear, whether e.g imps or troglodytes are not affected by morale bonus only themselves (and therefore cancel morale bonus to good and neutral units who are still considered one faction), or cancel the whole morale bonus of the artifact, so that morale fully depends on number of towns represented in the army and other typical events (e.g with pikemen, imps, goblins, and gnolls morale would be -2, if the latter were correct). BTW I hadn't yet tested Angelic Alliance with Conflux (not in HotA) and neutral units, but can imagine that they work like Inferno and Dungeon ones (e.g in classical game, phoenix + pikeman + gnoll means morale 0). If so, feel free to add it.--Dread Knight (talk) 12:06, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
- Maybe it needs a rewrite to be more succinct. Might also want to put this new (more succinct) explanation in a new section at the bottom. →ima 12:32, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
- I am not native English speaker, thus if someone rewords my text, I will be very grateful.--Dread Knight (talk) 12:41, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
- Talk:Angelic Alliance#More discussion --GroundhogYear (talk) 17:47, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
- I am not native English speaker, thus if someone rewords my text, I will be very grateful.--Dread Knight (talk) 12:41, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
Hi![edit | hide]
Perhaps you can help me or point out the admins of this project. Please pay attention to the topic. -- Nick Bud (talk) 03:11, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
Hi, found you in Recent Changes, can you rename pages here?[edit | hide]
I’m all positive the word in brackets does nothing good for this one: School of Magic (conceptual). Such page wants to be linked instead of editors having to comma-list all four schools for clearance on every mention. [ip editor] 13:28, 28 July 2023 (UTC)
- Do you mean you want a template that lists all four schools of magic? Such a thing could be created. As for renaming pages, it can be done by choosing "More" and then selecting "Move" from the dropdown list which will move the page to a new location. 14:15, 28 July 2023 (UTC)
- we can play with the capitalization here, leaving 'School of Magic' for the map object and using 'school of magic' for the spell characteristic. its not the in-game term and is not capitalized in the manuals.--GroundhogYear (talk) 16:43, 28 July 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks but i don’t seem to have such options as an unregistered user and i won’t register (no need to create another user:VioletBrandon68, is there?) I just wanted, upon reading somewhat slightly imperfect articles, to give a newbie explanation what Schools of Magics are, and created the page but only then realized one already existed, so my new one is a dupe and someone with proper rights now has to sort it out. I think the remaining page does not need any bracket comments in its title. [same ip editor] 19:08, 28 July 2023 (UTC)
- so i moved the 'conceptual' to schools of magic to keep its venerable edit history. your page had to be exterminated due to the moving mechanics, but i added ur text as a comment. u can delete it or use it to rearrange the existing page. i dont have any preferences here, kapteeni's and your versions look pretty similar to me. --GroundhogYear (talk) 23:44, 28 July 2023 (UTC)
- and no, there is never enough violets --GroundhogYear (talk) 23:45, 28 July 2023 (UTC)
For Legate[edit | hide]
(talk)