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== Discussion ==
| AI_Value  = 3718
Alamar has [[Resurrection]] as a starting spell, which is one of most powerful spells in the game. This fact makes Alamar a valuable hero for all factions except Necropolis. In addition, Alamar starts with [[Scholar]] and [[Wisdom]], which is a useful combination, that makes him a "walking Mage Guild" quickly. Three level-ups is minimum for Alamar to have Expert Scholar and Advanced Wisdom, which enables him to teach fourth level spells (including his Resurrection) to any hero capable of learning them.
| Name      = Giant
Black Dragons are immune to Resurrection.
| Attack    = 19
| Defense  = 16
| Speed    = 7
| Growth    = 1
| Damage    = 40–60
| Health    = 150
| Res      = [[File: Resource Gem 20x18.gif]]
| ResCost  = 1
| Cost      = 2000
| Special  = • [[Immunity]] to [[mind spell]]s
| U_AI_Value= 7500
| U_name    = Titan
| U_attack  = '''24'''
| U_defense = '''24'''
| U_speed  = '''11'''
| U_damage  = 40–60
| U_health  = '''300'''
| U_shots  = '''24'''
| U_ResCost = 2
| U_cost    = 5000
| U_special = • [[Ranged attack]]<br>• [[Immunity]] to [[mind spell]]s<br>• No [[melee Penalty]]<br>• [[Hate]]s [[Black Dragon]]s
| No_shots  =
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'''Giants and Titans''' are level 7 creatures of [[Tower town]]. They are recruited from the [[Cloud Temple]].
 
''"Giants and titans are immune to [[mind spells|spells affecting the mind]]. Titans do 150% damage to [[black dragon]]s, can hurl lightning bolts in a ranged attack and suffer no [[melee penalty|penalty for hand-to-hand attacks]], making them the most powerful ranged attack unit in the game."{{-}}<sup>[[Restoration of Erathia Manual Page 115|RoE manual]]''</sup>
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== Tactics, info and abilities ==
=== Toughness ===
With a health value of 150 and 16 defense, Giants have the lowest health for a level 7 creature, also boasting the second lowest defense value of a level 7 unit, the [[Bone Dragon|Bone Dragon's]] being lower by 1. On the other hand, Titans have the highest health for a level 7 unit that is not neutral, it's value being 300, only matched by the [[Black Dragon|Black Dragon's]] and the [[Ancient Behemoth|Ancient Behemoth's]] in {{roe}} (and [[Haspid|Haspid's]] in {{hota}}). However, Titans have 1 less defense than the [[Black Dragon]], but 5 more than the [[Ancient Behemoth]] (also 4 more than [[Haspid]] from {{hota}}). Their upgrade's health and defense bonus is also the highest in the game, being a bonus of +8 defense from the base creature and double the health.
 
=== Offense ===
Giants and Titans have the highest max and overall (together with the [[Angel and Archangel|Angels and Archangels]]) damage of a town affiliated creature, even higher than a [[Black Dragon|Black Dragon's]] or [[Gold Dragon|Gold Dragon's]]. However, they have 1 less attack than the [[Black Dragon]] and 6 less than the most powerful town creature, the [[Archangel]]. Still, the difference between the [[Black Dragon|Black Dragon's]] and the Titan's attack stat is minimal, and the later will mostly not even be retaliated against when attacking, since they primarily use a ranged attack. And even then, the Titans have no-melee penalty.
 
=== Efficiency and cost ===
Giants are very unimpressive 7th level creatures, and may not be worth the gold until your Cloud Temple sees an upgrade, especially due to their low health, defense and likelihood of being targeted by the AI. Titans, on the other hand, stand strong as one of the most powerful creatures in the game, boasting the highest health and max damage for an unit that is not neutral. However, here comes their only weakness: their creature and dwelling upgrade cost. The Titans are 1000 gold {{g}} more expensive than a [[Black Dragon]] with a similar efficiency and 1 gem {{gem}} less than an [[Archangel]]. The dwelling upgrade is also expensive in itself, but unlike other level 7 dwellings, you only pay a little price for the base dwelling (allowing you to accumulate more troops earlier), and pay the rest of the resources with the upgrade.
 
=== Tactics ===
If your hero happens to be an expert in [[Earth Magic]] with [[slow]] you will be able to dismantle a majority of neutral creatures (not necessarily with the help of [[mages]]) before they can land a blow. Additionally - with their [[Mind Spells|mind spell immunity]], Titans will not fall prey to the [[forgetfulness]] and [[berserk]] spell. Even in melee combat, your Titans should lead you to victory in a wide range of combat match-ups.
 
===Skill bonuses ===
A hero with [[Archery]] as a skill would be very efficient, increasing the Titans' damage output more than [[Offense]] would to other level 7 creatures ([[Archery]] also has damage bonus artifacts, unlike [[Offense]]), making them deal 150% damage in ranged attacks with [[Archery|Expert Archery]]. With [[Bow of the Sharpshooter]], all of their melee attacks will be ranged attacks, without chance of being retaliated, except for their own retaliations which will be regular melee attacks. The artifact also adds a 30% bonus to ranged damage, which will make Titans inflict 180% damage with it and [[Archery|Expert Archery]], almost double than the base damage.
 
=== Semantics ===
Together with the [[Black Dragon]], the Titan has become a symbol of the Heroes series since it first appeared in Heroes of Might and Magic II: The Succession Wars.
 
=== Others ===
Titans are one of the two upgraded tier 7 units that occupy one hex, the other being [[Arch Devil]]. They are also living constructs, being able to be resurrected, unlike [[Stone Golem and Iron Golem|golems]] and [[Stone Gargoyle and Obsidian Gargoyle|gargoyles]], but similar to the [[Crystal Dragon]].
 
== Trivia ==
 
The ability to "burn with anger" and do extra damage to black dragons is likely a reference to 3DO's previous title Heroes of Might and Magic II. In that game, the Wizard and Warlock were widely considered to be the strongest heroes and there was some debate among players as to the single strongest 6th level creature. It's also probably because they are supposed to be the opposite of "chaos", the [[black dragon]], being created by the wizards with the scope of slaying them.
 
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Revision as of 10:27, 26 March 2020

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Alamar has Resurrection as a starting spell, which is one of most powerful spells in the game. This fact makes Alamar a valuable hero for all factions except Necropolis. In addition, Alamar starts with Scholar and Wisdom, which is a useful combination, that makes him a "walking Mage Guild" quickly. Three level-ups is minimum for Alamar to have Expert Scholar and Advanced Wisdom, which enables him to teach fourth level spells (including his Resurrection) to any hero capable of learning them. Black Dragons are immune to Resurrection.