Red Dragon and Black Dragon and Ogre and Ogre Mage: Difference between pages

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Stronghold creatures

Level 1

Goblin

Hobgoblin

Level 2

Wolf Rider

Wolf Raider

Level 3

Orc

Orc Chieftain

Level 4

Ogre

Ogre Mage

Level 5

Roc

Thunderbird

Level 6

Cyclops

Cyclops King

Level 7

Behemoth

Ancient Behemoth

Towns

Statistics

Ogre

Cost per troop
300

Attack	13
Defense	7
Damage	6–12
Health	40
Speed	4
Movement	Ground
Size	1
Growth	4
AI Value	416

Ogre Mage

Cost per troop
400

Attack	13
Defense	7
Damage	6–12
Health	60
Speed	5
Movement	Ground
Size	1
Growth	4
AI Value	672

Special abilities:

• Spellcaster (Bloodlust)

Ogre and Ogre Mage are level 4 creatures of Stronghold town. They are recruited from the Ogre Fort.

"Wielding great wooden clubs, ogres and ogre mages deal good damage and are very durable. Ogre magi can cast the Bloodlust spell on any allied troop, once per round." ^{RoE manual}

Tactics and info

Ogre Magi cast Bloodlust three times per battle at the advanced level.

Though hindered by their slow speed, Ogres and Ogre Magi have the highest attack and health of any 4th level unit in the game. However, their defense is still low.

Heroes with a specialty

Vey the Battle Mage,
Krellion the Barbarian and
Boragus the Barbarian have ogres as a specialty, which increases the attack and defense skills of any ogres or ogre magi for each level attained after 4th level and gives them a speed bonus of 1.

Trivia

In one of the Armageddon's Blade teasers, the Ogre was shown shooting a beam of energy from his staff towards a Dendroid. The reason for that is because the teaser animations were already done and were supposed to show a Stinger or Bruiser instead, the Forge version of the Ogre, which bore a rocket launcher or Bazooka. However, due to fan backlash, they had to change the Forge creatures into "regular" creatures, and so the teaser became somewhat off-topic with ranged Goblins, a Minotaur and an Ogre guarding the Varn Vault where the Armageddon's Blade was kept.

External Links

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+{{Stronghold creatures}}{{Creature
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+  | AI_Value  = 416
-  | Name      = Red Dragon
+  | Name      = Ogre
-  | Attack    = 19
+  | Attack    = 13
-  | Defense   = 19
+  | Defense   = 7
-  | Speed     = 11
+  | Speed     = 4
-  | Growth    = 1
+  | Growth    = 4
-  | Damage    = 40–50
+  | Damage    = 6–12
-  | Health    = 180
+  | Health    = 40
- | Movement  = [[Flying]]
- | Size      = 2
- | Res       = [[File: Resource Sulfur 20x18.gif]]
- | ResCost   = 1
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- | Special   = • [[Dragon]]<br>• [[Breath attack]]<br>• [[Spell immunity|Immune to spells]] level 1–3
- | U_AI_Value= 8721
- | U_name    = Black Dragon
- | U_attack  = '''25'''
- | U_defense = '''25'''
- | U_speed   = '''15'''
- | U_health  = '''300'''
- | U_cost    = 4000
- | U_ResCost = 2
- | U_special = • [[Dragon]]<br>• [[Breath attack]]<br>• [[Spell immunity|Immune]] to all spells<br>• [[Hate]]s [[Giant and titan|Titans]]
   | No_shots  =
+ | Cost      = 300
+ | No_spec   =
+ | U_AI_Value= 672
+ | U_name    = Ogre Mage
+ | U_speed   = '''5'''
+ | U_health  = '''60'''
   | No_ushots =
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+ | U_cost    = 400
+ | U_special = • [[Spellcaster]] ([[Bloodlust]])
+}}
-{{Cram|Dragon Cave|Red Dragon|Black Dragon|no_dwelling=}}
+{{Cram|Ogre Fort|Ogre|Ogre Mage|no_dwelling=|pad=2px 10px 3px 5px}}
-'''Red Dragons and Black Dragons''' are level 7 creatures of [[Dungeon]], and are recruited from the [[Dragon Cave]].
+'''Ogre and Ogre Mage''' are level 4 creatures of [[Stronghold town]]. They are recruited from the [[Ogre Fort]].
-''"Red and black dragons with their great mobility, flying ability, and powerful [[breath attack|breath weapons]] are among the most effective units in the game. Red dragons are [[Spell immunity|immune to spells]] below level four. Black dragons are twice as durable, do [[Hate|150% damage]] to... [[Giant and titan|titans]], and are immune to all spells."{{-}}<sup>[[Restoration of Erathia Manual Page 91|RoE manual]]''</sup>
+''"Wielding great wooden clubs, ogres and ogre mages deal good damage and are very durable. Ogre magi can cast the [[Bloodlust]] spell on any allied troop, once per round."{{-}}<sup>[[Restoration of Erathia Manual Page 110|RoE manual]]''</sup>
+<div style="clear:left;"></div>
 == Tactics and info ==
-=== Toughness ===
+Ogre Magi cast [[Bloodlust]] three times per battle at the advanced level.
-With the health value of 300, Black Dragon is one of the toughest creatures in the game. In the original {{roe}}, it was toughest of the [[dragon]]s and its health was only matched by [[Titan]]s' and [[Ancient Behemoth]]s' (and by Haspid's in {{hota}}). It also has more Defense than either of those creatures. {{ab}} expansion introduced four new dragons, [[Faerie Dragon]], [[Rust Dragon]]s, [[Crystal Dragon]]s and [[Azure Dragon]]s, which all are neutral creatures and have more health than Black Dragons.
-=== Tactics ===
+Though hindered by their slow speed, Ogres and Ogre Magi have the highest attack and health of any 4th level unit in the game. However, their defense is still low.
-Because of the Black Dragons' spell immunity, they are suitable to be used in tactics often called [[dragogeddon]]. In dragogeddon, a hero with preferably high [[power skill]] and [[Armageddon]] spell attacks with an army only consisting of creatures immune or very resilient to the Armageddon spell. The tactics may be used in "hit-and-run" tactic, to advance through wandering creatures or even to slay enemy heroes. In {{roe}} series, Black Dragons were the best creature to use in dragogeddon.
-The benefit of using Black Dragons in this tactics is their high initiative, in other words, their speed. Only [[Phoenix]]es and [[Gold Dragon]]s are faster creatures that are immune to Armageddon. High initative enables hero to act first in the combat, and this way possibly win the battle before enemy gets a chance to flee, surrender or otherwise cause resistance.
+== Heroes with a specialty ==
+*{{H|Vey|Battle Mage}},
+*{{H|Krellion|Barbarian}} and
+*{{H|Boragus|Barbarian}} have ogres as a [[Specialty#Creature_specialties|specialty]], which increases the attack and defense skills of any ogres or ogre magi for each level attained after 4th level and gives them a [[speed]] bonus of 1.
-=== Semantics ===
+== Trivia ==
-Together with the [[Titan]], Black Dragon has become a symbol of the Heroes series since it first appeared in Heroes of Might and Magic II: The Succession Wars.
+In one of the {{ab}} teasers, the Ogre was shown shooting a beam of energy from his staff towards a [[Dendroid]]. The reason for that is because the teaser animations were already done and were supposed to show a Stinger or Bruiser instead, the [[Forge]] version of the Ogre, which bore a rocket launcher or Bazooka. However, due to fan backlash, they had to change the Forge creatures into "regular" creatures, and so the teaser became somewhat off-topic with ranged [[Goblins]], a [[Minotaur]] and an Ogre guarding the Varn Vault where the [[Armageddon's Blade]] was kept.
-== Special Abilities ==
+===== External Links =====
+* [https://mightandmagic.fandom.com/ru/wiki/Heroes_of_Might_and_Magic_III:_Armageddon%E2%80%99s_Blade ]
-=====Magic Immunity=====
-This spell immunity is a double-edged sword, though, as it makes both Red and Black dragons immune to most beneficial spells, including [[Resurrection]]. Placing Red or Black Dragons (as well as any living Dragons) in the [[Skeleton Transformer]] will give you [[Bone Dragon]]s instead of regular [[Skeleton]]s.
-Both dragons are affected by [[Dispel]].
-=====Hates Titans=====
-Though it is stated in the manual, Black Dragons do not hate [[Giant]]s.
 {{creature 'see also'}}
 [[Category: Creatures]]
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