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Inferno creatures

2014-03-30T14:50:46Z

HaxLi: moved Inferno creatures to Creatures of Inferno town

#REDIRECT [[Creatures of Inferno town]]

Rampart creatures

2014-03-30T14:50:26Z

HaxLi: moved Rampart creatures to Creatures of Rampart town

#REDIRECT [[Creatures of Rampart town]]

Tower creatures

2014-03-30T14:49:52Z

HaxLi: moved Tower creatures to Creatures of Tower town

#REDIRECT [[Creatures of Tower town]]

User talk:HaxLi

2014-03-30T14:43:06Z

HaxLi: /* Creature articles – together or separately? */

== About templates ==
I am not sure, and I am sure you know more about templates than me, but could your problems with artifact templates be solved with [[:Template: Empty]]? I am not entirely sure where would I need one, but I already created one. :) –[[User:Kapteeni Ruoska|Kapteeni Ruoska]] 16:53, 5 March 2014 (CET)
:Well, I'm learning everything now from the given [[Help:Contents]] here and searching by Google if can't find simple answer xD But sadly cant find fast answer with empty link tags like this <nowiki>[[ ]]</nowiki>, have to put atleast one simbol to let it show the code correctly --[[User:HaxLi|HaxLi]] 17:04, 5 March 2014 (CET)

== Comment about creature costs ==
There are probably more mistakses like the costs of [[Skeleton and Skeleton Warrior]]. As I can remember, there has been only few changes in the creature characteristics over the years from 3DO. One of the best has been the additional gems for [[Angel]]s. –[[User:Kapteeni Ruoska|Kapteeni Ruoska]] 10:21, 21 March 2014 (CET)

== Creature articles – together or separately? ==
Perhaps the first thing I did for this wiki was to unite basic and upgraded creature articles. For example, Pikeman and Halberdier became Pikeman/Halberdier, then Pikeman and halberdier and finally I am moving them to Pikeman and Halberdier. Now, I've begun to wonder if the merging was a good idea afterall. Of course there are some pros and cons in both choices. For example, one often needs the infromation about same level creatures simultaneously (IMO). But now with all the comparison options, like [[Castle creatures]] or [[List of creatures]], I think that feature has become somewhat useless. The needed information can be found elsewhere if not from the combined creature page. What do you think? Should we sparate those articles again? –[[User:Kapteeni Ruoska|Kapteeni Ruoska]] 10:57, 28 March 2014 (CET)

:Oh, and this also brings up the questin, should the Creature Dwellings be two articles a piece (e.g. Gnoll Hut and Upgraded Gnoll Hut). –[[User:Kapteeni Ruoska|Kapteeni Ruoska]] 11:00, 28 March 2014 (CET)

::You did a great job in this wiki site. IMO those merged articles are logical and it is nice to see alike information in one place ;] --[[User:HaxLi|HaxLi]] 19:54, 28 March 2014 (CET)

::Furthermore I'd like to see dwellings and their creatures in one article (just not sure then what the page name should be). I don't see a point to separate similar things in separate pages. And wiki that way looks more simple for typical users. I have noticed most users looks for Adventure map object here so would be a good idea to hurry those pictures upload. That's how I have found this page ;] Most other object info is pretty self explanatory in game --[[User:HaxLi|HaxLi]] 08:14, 29 March 2014 (CET)

::IMHO those pages names should be simplified. e.g. [[Griffin and royal griffin]] redirected to -> [[Griffins]] (plural of the main creature) and put all info about them in that page (including dwellings with their pictures) ;] --[[User:HaxLi|HaxLi]] 09:57, 29 March 2014 (CET)

:::I am not sure that simpler names for creature pages is a good idea. I agree, that the names are a bit difficult, but I do not see any difference moving them under simpler names, e.g. "Griffin and Royal Griffin" to just "Griffins". We would still have to use those directs to guide people to the right page, because people will search infromation with the word "griffin" or "royal griffin". The only thing that would make a difference, is that we would separate those to under their real names, which would eliminate the need of redirects.

:::I see your point in uniting "Griffin and Royal Griffin" and "Griffin Tower" articles. They both contain information that are closely related. However, perhaps the solution could be to make town pages (e.g. [[Fortress town]]) the palce where all infromation comes together. Did you get what I meant? –[[User:Kapteeni Ruoska|Kapteeni Ruoska]] 11:37, 29 March 2014 (CET)

::::Why I ask about simplifying is bcoz of easier use in code to link in, coz now I have to look for correct '''long & difficult name''' of a page if I want to direct to 'Griffins' since there are some unfinished jobs to be done.

::::About uniting, not sure If I understand, but there are already all info together in one place ;] I saw you made a [[:Template:Creature dwelling]] which contains creature mini pictures already, but would be nice to see alike info in creature page with dwelling pictures and since there are no mini versions of those, I thought it would be nice to unite them ;] --[[User:HaxLi|HaxLi]] 16:43, 30 March 2014 (CEST)

== Adventure Map pictures ==
I could try to upload a bunch of those today or tomorrow (although I do not know what time zone you are in ;)). I animated some of those pictures, mainly those with something else than a smoke coming out of chimney. It is definetly not necessary, but somewhat fun. –[[User:Kapteeni Ruoska|Kapteeni Ruoska]] 11:37, 29 March 2014 (CET)

:Yes, animated gifs are osom. It's nice that you find time for that kind of fun ;] Btw about time zone [http://www.timeanddate.com/library/abbreviations/timezones/eu/cest.html CEST – Central European Summer Time]. It's at the end of my signature, like yours is CET --[[User:HaxLi|HaxLi]] 16:23, 30 March 2014 (CEST) <<--

Griffin

2014-03-30T14:33:24Z

HaxLi: Redirected page to Griffin and Royal Griffin

#REDIRECT [[Griffin and Royal Griffin]]

User talk:HaxLi

2014-03-30T14:23:42Z

HaxLi: /* Adventure Map pictures */ time zone

== About templates ==
I am not sure, and I am sure you know more about templates than me, but could your problems with artifact templates be solved with [[:Template: Empty]]? I am not entirely sure where would I need one, but I already created one. :) –[[User:Kapteeni Ruoska|Kapteeni Ruoska]] 16:53, 5 March 2014 (CET)
:Well, I'm learning everything now from the given [[Help:Contents]] here and searching by Google if can't find simple answer xD But sadly cant find fast answer with empty link tags like this <nowiki>[[ ]]</nowiki>, have to put atleast one simbol to let it show the code correctly --[[User:HaxLi|HaxLi]] 17:04, 5 March 2014 (CET)

== Comment about creature costs ==
There are probably more mistakses like the costs of [[Skeleton and Skeleton Warrior]]. As I can remember, there has been only few changes in the creature characteristics over the years from 3DO. One of the best has been the additional gems for [[Angel]]s. –[[User:Kapteeni Ruoska|Kapteeni Ruoska]] 10:21, 21 March 2014 (CET)

== Creature articles – together or separately? ==
Perhaps the first thing I did for this wiki was to unite basic and upgraded creature articles. For example, Pikeman and Halberdier became Pikeman/Halberdier, then Pikeman and halberdier and finally I am moving them to Pikeman and Halberdier. Now, I've begun to wonder if the merging was a good idea afterall. Of course there are some pros and cons in both choices. For example, one often needs the infromation about same level creatures simultaneously (IMO). But now with all the comparison options, like [[Castle creatures]] or [[List of creatures]], I think that feature has become somewhat useless. The needed information can be found elsewhere if not from the combined creature page. What do you think? Should we sparate those articles again? –[[User:Kapteeni Ruoska|Kapteeni Ruoska]] 10:57, 28 March 2014 (CET)

:Oh, and this also brings up the questin, should the Creature Dwellings be two articles a piece (e.g. Gnoll Hut and Upgraded Gnoll Hut). –[[User:Kapteeni Ruoska|Kapteeni Ruoska]] 11:00, 28 March 2014 (CET)

::You did a great job in this wiki site. IMO those merged articles are logical and it is nice to see alike information in one place ;] --[[User:HaxLi|HaxLi]] 19:54, 28 March 2014 (CET)

::Furthermore I'd like to see dwellings and their creatures in one article (just not sure then what the page name should be). I don't see a point to separate similar things in separate pages. And wiki that way looks more simple for typical users. I have noticed most users looks for Adventure map object here so would be a good idea to hurry those pictures upload. That's how I have found this page ;] Most other object info is pretty self explanatory in game --[[User:HaxLi|HaxLi]] 08:14, 29 March 2014 (CET)

::IMHO those pages names should be simplified. e.g. [[Griffin and royal griffin]] redirected to -> [[Griffins]] (plural of the main creature) and put all info about them in that page (including dwellings with their pictures) ;] --[[User:HaxLi|HaxLi]] 09:57, 29 March 2014 (CET)

:::I am not sure that simpler names for creature pages is a good idea. I agree, that the names are a bit difficult, but I do not see any difference moving them under simpler names, e.g. "Griffin and Royal Griffin" to just "Griffins". We would still have to use those directs to guide people to the right page, because people will search infromation with the word "griffin" or "royal griffin". The only thing that would make a difference, is that we would separate those to under their real names, which would eliminate the need of redirects.

:::I see your point in uniting "Griffin and Royal Griffin" and "Griffin Tower" articles. They both contain information that are closely related. However, perhaps the solution could be to make town pages (e.g. [[Fortress town]]) the palce where all infromation comes together. Did you get what I meant? –[[User:Kapteeni Ruoska|Kapteeni Ruoska]] 11:37, 29 March 2014 (CET)

== Adventure Map pictures ==
I could try to upload a bunch of those today or tomorrow (although I do not know what time zone you are in ;)). I animated some of those pictures, mainly those with something else than a smoke coming out of chimney. It is definetly not necessary, but somewhat fun. –[[User:Kapteeni Ruoska|Kapteeni Ruoska]] 11:37, 29 March 2014 (CET)

:Yes, animated gifs are osom. It's nice that you find time for that kind of fun ;] Btw about time zone [http://www.timeanddate.com/library/abbreviations/timezones/eu/cest.html CEST – Central European Summer Time]. It's at the end of my signature, like yours is CET --[[User:HaxLi|HaxLi]] 16:23, 30 March 2014 (CEST) <<--

User talk:HaxLi

2014-03-30T14:19:34Z

HaxLi: /* Adventure Map pictures */

== About templates ==
I am not sure, and I am sure you know more about templates than me, but could your problems with artifact templates be solved with [[:Template: Empty]]? I am not entirely sure where would I need one, but I already created one. :) –[[User:Kapteeni Ruoska|Kapteeni Ruoska]] 16:53, 5 March 2014 (CET)
:Well, I'm learning everything now from the given [[Help:Contents]] here and searching by Google if can't find simple answer xD But sadly cant find fast answer with empty link tags like this <nowiki>[[ ]]</nowiki>, have to put atleast one simbol to let it show the code correctly --[[User:HaxLi|HaxLi]] 17:04, 5 March 2014 (CET)

== Comment about creature costs ==
There are probably more mistakses like the costs of [[Skeleton and Skeleton Warrior]]. As I can remember, there has been only few changes in the creature characteristics over the years from 3DO. One of the best has been the additional gems for [[Angel]]s. –[[User:Kapteeni Ruoska|Kapteeni Ruoska]] 10:21, 21 March 2014 (CET)

== Creature articles – together or separately? ==
Perhaps the first thing I did for this wiki was to unite basic and upgraded creature articles. For example, Pikeman and Halberdier became Pikeman/Halberdier, then Pikeman and halberdier and finally I am moving them to Pikeman and Halberdier. Now, I've begun to wonder if the merging was a good idea afterall. Of course there are some pros and cons in both choices. For example, one often needs the infromation about same level creatures simultaneously (IMO). But now with all the comparison options, like [[Castle creatures]] or [[List of creatures]], I think that feature has become somewhat useless. The needed information can be found elsewhere if not from the combined creature page. What do you think? Should we sparate those articles again? –[[User:Kapteeni Ruoska|Kapteeni Ruoska]] 10:57, 28 March 2014 (CET)

:Oh, and this also brings up the questin, should the Creature Dwellings be two articles a piece (e.g. Gnoll Hut and Upgraded Gnoll Hut). –[[User:Kapteeni Ruoska|Kapteeni Ruoska]] 11:00, 28 March 2014 (CET)

::You did a great job in this wiki site. IMO those merged articles are logical and it is nice to see alike information in one place ;] --[[User:HaxLi|HaxLi]] 19:54, 28 March 2014 (CET)

::Furthermore I'd like to see dwellings and their creatures in one article (just not sure then what the page name should be). I don't see a point to separate similar things in separate pages. And wiki that way looks more simple for typical users. I have noticed most users looks for Adventure map object here so would be a good idea to hurry those pictures upload. That's how I have found this page ;] Most other object info is pretty self explanatory in game --[[User:HaxLi|HaxLi]] 08:14, 29 March 2014 (CET)

::IMHO those pages names should be simplified. e.g. [[Griffin and royal griffin]] redirected to -> [[Griffins]] (plural of the main creature) and put all info about them in that page (including dwellings with their pictures) ;] --[[User:HaxLi|HaxLi]] 09:57, 29 March 2014 (CET)

:::I am not sure that simpler names for creature pages is a good idea. I agree, that the names are a bit difficult, but I do not see any difference moving them under simpler names, e.g. "Griffin and Royal Griffin" to just "Griffins". We would still have to use those directs to guide people to the right page, because people will search infromation with the word "griffin" or "royal griffin". The only thing that would make a difference, is that we would separate those to under their real names, which would eliminate the need of redirects.

:::I see your point in uniting "Griffin and Royal Griffin" and "Griffin Tower" articles. They both contain information that are closely related. However, perhaps the solution could be to make town pages (e.g. [[Fortress town]]) the palce where all infromation comes together. Did you get what I meant? –[[User:Kapteeni Ruoska|Kapteeni Ruoska]] 11:37, 29 March 2014 (CET)

== Adventure Map pictures ==
I could try to upload a bunch of those today or tomorrow (although I do not know what time zone you are in ;)). I animated some of those pictures, mainly those with something else than a smoke coming out of chimney. It is definetly not necessary, but somewhat fun. –[[User:Kapteeni Ruoska|Kapteeni Ruoska]] 11:37, 29 March 2014 (CET)

:Yes, animated gifs are osom. It's nice that you find time for that kind of fun ;] --[[User:HaxLi|HaxLi]] 16:19, 30 March 2014 (CEST)

Template:Tower creatures

2014-03-30T14:17:06Z

HaxLi: code simplify with :Template:Cn

{| cellpadding=0 cellspacing=0 border=0 style="background-color:#{{Blue 3}}; border: 1px solid; width:175px; float:{{{float|right}}}"
! colspan=2 bgcolor={{Blue 1}} align=center style="height: 25px;" | [[Creatures of Tower town|Creatures of Tower town]]
|-
! rowspan=2 align=center bgcolor={{Blue 2}} width=15 style="border-bottom: 1px solid" | 1
| {{Cn|Gremlin|Gremlin and Master Gremlin}}
|-
| style="border-bottom: 1px solid" | {{Cn|Master Gremlin|Gremlin and Master Gremlin}}
|-
! rowspan=2 align=center bgcolor={{Blue 2}} style="border-bottom: 1px solid" | 2
| {{Cn|Stone Gargoyle|Stone and Obsidian Gargoyle}}
|-
| style="border-bottom: 1px solid" | {{Cn|Obsidian Gargoyle|Stone and Obsidian Gargoyle}}
|-
! rowspan=2 align=center bgcolor={{Blue 2}} style="border-bottom: 1px solid" | 3
| {{Cn|Stone Golem|Stone and Iron Golem}}
|-
| style="border-bottom: 1px solid" | {{Cn|Iron Golem|Stone and Iron Golem}}
|-
! rowspan=2 align=center bgcolor={{Blue 2}} style="border-bottom: 1px solid" | 4
| {{Cn|Mage|Mage and Arch Mage}}
|-
| style="border-bottom: 1px solid" | {{Cn|Arch Mage|Mage and Arch Mage}}
|-
! rowspan=2 align=center bgcolor={{Blue 2}} style="border-bottom: 1px solid" | 5
| {{Cn|Genie|Genie and Master Genie}}
|-
| style="border-bottom: 1px solid" | {{Cn|Master Genie|Genie and Master Genie}}
|-
! rowspan=2 align=center bgcolor={{Blue 2}} style="border-bottom: 1px solid" | 6
| {{Cn|Naga|Naga and Naga Queen}}
|-
| style="border-bottom: 1px solid" | {{Cn|Naga Queen|Naga and Naga Queen}}
|-
! rowspan=2 align=center bgcolor={{Blue 2}} | 7
| {{Cn|Giant|Giant and Titan}}
|-
| {{Cn|Titan|Giant and Titan}}
|}<noinclude>

[[Category: Creature templates|{{PAGENAME}}]]</noinclude>

Template:Castle creatures

2014-03-30T13:44:48Z

HaxLi: secondary links

{| cellpadding=0 cellspacing=0 border=0 style="background-color:#{{Blue 3}}; border: 1px solid; width:175px; float:{{{float|right}}}"
! colspan=2 bgcolor={{Blue 1}} align=center style="height: 25px;" | [[Creatures of Castle town|Creatures of Castle town]]
|-
! rowspan=2 align=center bgcolor={{Blue 2}} width=15 style="border-bottom: 1px solid" | 1
| {{Cn|Pikeman|Pikeman and Halberdier}}
|-
| style="border-bottom: 1px solid" | {{Cn|Halberdier|Pikeman and Halberdier}}
|-
! rowspan=2 align=center bgcolor={{Blue 2}} style="border-bottom: 1px solid" | 2
| {{Cn|Archer|Archer and Marksman}}
|-
| style="border-bottom: 1px solid" | {{Cn|Marksman|Archer and Marksman}}
|-
! rowspan=2 align=center bgcolor={{Blue 2}} style="border-bottom: 1px solid" | 3
| {{Cn|Griffin|Griffin and Royal Griffin}}
|-
| style="border-bottom: 1px solid" | {{Cn|Royal Griffin|Griffin and Royal Griffin}}
|-
! rowspan=2 align=center bgcolor={{Blue 2}} style="border-bottom: 1px solid" | 4
| {{Cn|Swordsman|Swordsman and Crusader}}
|-
| style="border-bottom: 1px solid" | {{Cn|Crusader|Swordsman and Crusader}}
|-
! rowspan=2 align=center bgcolor={{Blue 2}} style="border-bottom: 1px solid" | 5
| {{Cn|Monk|Monk and Zealot}}
|-
| style="border-bottom: 1px solid" | {{Cn|Zealot|Monk and Zealot}}
|-
! rowspan=2 align=center bgcolor={{Blue 2}} style="border-bottom: 1px solid" | 6
| {{Cn|Cavalier|Cavalier and Champion}}
|-
| style="border-bottom: 1px solid" | {{Cn|Champion|Cavalier and Champion}}
|-
! rowspan=2 align=center bgcolor={{Blue 2}} | 7
| {{Cn|Angel|Angel and Archangel}}
|-
| {{Cn|Archangel|Angel and Archangel}}
|}<noinclude>

[[Category: Creature templates|{{PAGENAME}}]]</noinclude>

Template:Cn

2014-03-30T13:40:03Z

HaxLi: secondary link

<includeonly>[[Image:Creature portrait {{{1}}} small.gif|{{{1}}}|link={{{1}}}]] [[{{{2|{{{1}}}}}}|{{{1}}}]]</includeonly><noinclude>
'''Cn''' is short of '''C'''reature '''N'''ame.

==Use==
It's used to show creature image and name with a link to it

=====Variables=====
1=[[Creatures|creature]] name

=====Code=====
<pre>{{Cn|'creature name'}}</pre>

==Example==
<pre>{{Cn|Rogue}}</pre>
gives:

[[Image:Creature portrait Rogue small.gif|Rrgue|link=Rogue]] [[Rogue]]

[[Category: Table templates|Creature name]]
__NOTOC__</noinclude>

Template:Castle creatures

2014-03-30T13:27:16Z

HaxLi: code simplify with :Template:Cn

{| cellpadding=0 cellspacing=0 border=0 style="background-color:#{{Blue 3}}; border: 1px solid; width:175px; float:{{{float|right}}}"
! colspan=2 bgcolor={{Blue 1}} align=center style="height: 25px;" | [[Creatures of Castle town|Creatures of Castle town]]
|-
! rowspan=2 align=center bgcolor={{Blue 2}} width=15 style="border-bottom: 1px solid" | 1
| {{Cn|Pikeman}}
|-
| style="border-bottom: 1px solid" | {{Cn|Halberdier}}
|-
! rowspan=2 align=center bgcolor={{Blue 2}} style="border-bottom: 1px solid" | 2
| {{Cn|Archer}}
|-
| style="border-bottom: 1px solid" | {{Cn|Marksman}}
|-
! rowspan=2 align=center bgcolor={{Blue 2}} style="border-bottom: 1px solid" | 3
| {{Cn|Griffin}}
|-
| style="border-bottom: 1px solid" | {{Cn|Royal Griffin}}
|-
! rowspan=2 align=center bgcolor={{Blue 2}} style="border-bottom: 1px solid" | 4
| {{Cn|Swordsman}}
|-
| style="border-bottom: 1px solid" | {{Cn|Crusader}}
|-
! rowspan=2 align=center bgcolor={{Blue 2}} style="border-bottom: 1px solid" | 5
| {{Cn|Monk}}
|-
| style="border-bottom: 1px solid" | {{Cn|Zealot}}
|-
! rowspan=2 align=center bgcolor={{Blue 2}} style="border-bottom: 1px solid" | 6
| {{Cn|Cavalier}}
|-
| style="border-bottom: 1px solid" | {{Cn|Champion}}
|-
! rowspan=2 align=center bgcolor={{Blue 2}} | 7
| {{Cn|Angel}}
|-
| {{Cn|Archangel}}
|}<noinclude>

[[Category: Creature templates|{{PAGENAME}}]]</noinclude>

User talk:Kapteeni Ruoska

2014-03-29T09:23:53Z

HaxLi: /* Move? */

== Epic timing? ==
Lol, did we just edit the Learning skill page the same minute? My edit was blocked and it said you had done an edit like 3s earlier. --[[User:Ooola|Ooola]] 13:18, 17 February 2014 (CET)

: I did edit learning skill. :D Funny coincidence! And sorry for the inconvenience. –[[User:Kapteeni Ruoska|Kapteeni Ruoska]] 13:21, 17 February 2014 (CET)

== Hero pic ==
Your deprecation of the hero pic template has completely destroyed the [[Tarnum]] page in a way that will be hard to repair with the Hero template, for reasons specific to Tarnum. It also quite wrecked the [[Lord Haart]] layout.

:True, that the heropic template wrecks the Tarnum page because of its infromation text. However, I disagree it is hard to repair. First of all, the only thing that the heropic template does is, that it sets an image on the page. This can be also be done with ordinary wikitext, and almost as easily. So in my opinnion, the Tarnum page can easily be repaired by anyone with the will. What comes to Lord Haart, I admit that the page looks awful at the moment. However, it is only partly the hero templates fault. There is definetly few ways to make the page more appealing. One of which is to separate the two articles, for example "Lord Haart the knight" and "Lord Haart the death knight". In some point, I will fix it somehow. –[[User:Kapteeni Ruoska|Kapteeni Ruoska]] 06:36, 28 February 2014 (CET) (new edit)

== Treasure price ==
I think you are adding 'sell' prices of artifacts instead of 'buy' ;p --[[User:HaxLi|HaxLi]] 22:03, 5 March 2014 (CET)

: Uh, crap. That is true (again). Last day was not my best ones. –[[User:Kapteeni Ruoska|Kapteeni Ruoska]] 05:52, 6 March 2014 (CET)
: Actually not. That is the basic cost of artifact, from where the buy price and sell price is derived. –[[User:Kapteeni Ruoska|Kapteeni Ruoska]] 06:25, 6 March 2014 (CET)

:: Oh well, then need to make code (if it's possible) to divide prices by 5 in the item list or to retype them all >< --[[User:HaxLi|HaxLi]] 11:13, 6 March 2014 (CET)

::: :D Perhaps we have to give some credit for reades to know and uderstand the merchant prices. –[[User:Kapteeni Ruoska|Kapteeni Ruoska]] 11:15, 6 March 2014 (CET)

== Nice job ==

Thanks for your hard work here on this Heroes wiki. Nice to see finished designed and informative pages ;] --[[User:HaxLi|HaxLi]] 19:34, 9 March 2014 (CET)

:Heh, thanks. :) Not a bad job yourself. Could not have figured out that sortable table. –[[User:Kapteeni Ruoska|Kapteeni Ruoska]] 19:38, 9 March 2014 (CET)

== Capital Letters in Names ==
Um, I have noticed that you remove '''capital letters''' from names. In my knowledge it's wrong. In game all names are Capitalized. Some Google search about [[http://www.grammarbook.com/punctuation/capital.asp Capitalization Rules]] ;] --[[User:HaxLi|HaxLi]] 10:00, 19 March 2014 (CET)

:That is true, and I have to admit that I am not a native english speaker nor I am familiar with grammar rules. Perhaps you know better why basically everything in the game is capitalized. For example, why is it "Skeleton Warrior" and not "skeleton warrior"? Surely that is not a name of any sort. What is the grammar rule behind that? –[[User:Kapteeni Ruoska|Kapteeni Ruoska]] 10:26, 19 March 2014 (CET)

::In my opinion, it's something about 'Capitalize a proper noun' (Rule 2 from a link). Just all items and creatures there are called in those names they are given ;] --[[User:HaxLi|HaxLi]] 17:25, 19 March 2014 (CET)

:As I said, I know very little about this matter. It just looks weird to me to write Skeleton Warrior with capitals. Is it not the same as "dog", which is a common noun, and therefore written with smalla letters? (This is a freakish conversation! :]) –[[User:Kapteeni Ruoska|Kapteeni Ruoska]] 19:27, 19 March 2014 (CET)

::If that 'dog' were a warrior in game, then it had to be the 'Dog' :D I made this question bcoz want to decide what to do with [[http://heroes.thelazy.net/wiki/Category:Spell_pictures Spell pictures]] and [[List_of_spells]]. You are the main editor of those files and pages and I ask if I should rename and reupload files with big letters (strange that wiki do not understand those files in different caps) or just make that list with First_caps_names of spells (not standard)? --[[User:HaxLi|HaxLi]] 19:59, 19 March 2014 (CET)

:I still do not get it. :D But I believe you. So, this this means that we have to redirect all the pages I have so "cleverly" already redirected. :( Also, that upload task is a hard one. If you want to do this, I could send you the original pictures. That would at least reduce the burden of downloading all the spell files. –[[User:Kapteeni Ruoska|Kapteeni Ruoska]] 20:05, 19 March 2014 (CET)

::No need to download. I use direct URL from the wiki. I believe there are rename function in this wiki, just disabled for non_admin users.
::Well, hope [[User:Terra|Terra]] don't mind if there'll be duplicate files x] --[[User:HaxLi|HaxLi]] 20:29, 19 March 2014 (CET)

:I've asked [[User:Terra|Terra]] for more power, but he/she seems to be busy. There are a lot of pictures already in the [[:Category:Garbage]], so a few more will not propably be a problem. ;) –[[User:Kapteeni Ruoska|Kapteeni Ruoska]] 20:33, 19 March 2014 (CET)

::Done the renaming job. Found missing spell image [[:Image:Fire Wall.png]]. Look if you have it in your folder ;] --[[User:HaxLi|HaxLi]] 21:38, 19 March 2014 (CET)

::Excellent! I found the fire wall picture and uploaded it.–[[User:Kapteeni Ruoska|Kapteeni Ruoska]] 21:44, 19 March 2014 (CET)

== TIP: Upload file with added category ==

When you upload a file, in summary section you can write/paste a category code. It's faster I guess than to edit each file additionally ;] --[[User:HaxLi|HaxLi]] 12:21, 20 March 2014 (CET)

:Thank you for the tip. I am actually aware of that, but in my opinnion it is faster to just upload them and then (with tabs) edit them again. :) –[[User:Kapteeni Ruoska|Kapteeni Ruoska]] 13:27, 20 March 2014 (CET)

:Uh, actually that is pretty handy. Even although I knew that feature, I just did not thought it before. :) –[[User:Kapteeni Ruoska|Kapteeni Ruoska]] 15:01, 20 March 2014 (CET)

== Simplify creature page names ==

Maybe we should move creature articles to those plural names as I suggested in [http://heroes.thelazy.net/wiki/User_talk:HaxLi Creature articles – together or separately] question? ;]

e.g. [[Griffin and royal griffin]] redirected to -> [[Griffins]] (plural of the main creature) and put all info about them in that page (including dwellings with their pictures)

So I'll leave the rest unoccupied page names from [[List_of_heroes]] specialties --[[User:HaxLi|HaxLi]] 10:22, 29 March 2014 (CET)

User talk:Kapteeni Ruoska

2014-03-29T09:23:25Z

HaxLi: /* Simplify creature page names */ new section

== Epic timing? ==
Lol, did we just edit the Learning skill page the same minute? My edit was blocked and it said you had done an edit like 3s earlier. --[[User:Ooola|Ooola]] 13:18, 17 February 2014 (CET)

: I did edit learning skill. :D Funny coincidence! And sorry for the inconvenience. –[[User:Kapteeni Ruoska|Kapteeni Ruoska]] 13:21, 17 February 2014 (CET)

== Hero pic ==
Your deprecation of the hero pic template has completely destroyed the [[Tarnum]] page in a way that will be hard to repair with the Hero template, for reasons specific to Tarnum. It also quite wrecked the [[Lord Haart]] layout.

:True, that the heropic template wrecks the Tarnum page because of its infromation text. However, I disagree it is hard to repair. First of all, the only thing that the heropic template does is, that it sets an image on the page. This can be also be done with ordinary wikitext, and almost as easily. So in my opinnion, the Tarnum page can easily be repaired by anyone with the will. What comes to Lord Haart, I admit that the page looks awful at the moment. However, it is only partly the hero templates fault. There is definetly few ways to make the page more appealing. One of which is to separate the two articles, for example "Lord Haart the knight" and "Lord Haart the death knight". In some point, I will fix it somehow. –[[User:Kapteeni Ruoska|Kapteeni Ruoska]] 06:36, 28 February 2014 (CET) (new edit)

== Treasure price ==
I think you are adding 'sell' prices of artifacts instead of 'buy' ;p --[[User:HaxLi|HaxLi]] 22:03, 5 March 2014 (CET)

: Uh, crap. That is true (again). Last day was not my best ones. –[[User:Kapteeni Ruoska|Kapteeni Ruoska]] 05:52, 6 March 2014 (CET)
: Actually not. That is the basic cost of artifact, from where the buy price and sell price is derived. –[[User:Kapteeni Ruoska|Kapteeni Ruoska]] 06:25, 6 March 2014 (CET)

:: Oh well, then need to make code (if it's possible) to divide prices by 5 in the item list or to retype them all >< --[[User:HaxLi|HaxLi]] 11:13, 6 March 2014 (CET)

::: :D Perhaps we have to give some credit for reades to know and uderstand the merchant prices. –[[User:Kapteeni Ruoska|Kapteeni Ruoska]] 11:15, 6 March 2014 (CET)

== Nice job ==

Thanks for your hard work here on this Heroes wiki. Nice to see finished designed and informative pages ;] --[[User:HaxLi|HaxLi]] 19:34, 9 March 2014 (CET)

:Heh, thanks. :) Not a bad job yourself. Could not have figured out that sortable table. –[[User:Kapteeni Ruoska|Kapteeni Ruoska]] 19:38, 9 March 2014 (CET)

== Capital Letters in Names ==
Um, I have noticed that you remove '''capital letters''' from names. In my knowledge it's wrong. In game all names are Capitalized. Some Google search about [[http://www.grammarbook.com/punctuation/capital.asp Capitalization Rules]] ;] --[[User:HaxLi|HaxLi]] 10:00, 19 March 2014 (CET)

:That is true, and I have to admit that I am not a native english speaker nor I am familiar with grammar rules. Perhaps you know better why basically everything in the game is capitalized. For example, why is it "Skeleton Warrior" and not "skeleton warrior"? Surely that is not a name of any sort. What is the grammar rule behind that? –[[User:Kapteeni Ruoska|Kapteeni Ruoska]] 10:26, 19 March 2014 (CET)

::In my opinion, it's something about 'Capitalize a proper noun' (Rule 2 from a link). Just all items and creatures there are called in those names they are given ;] --[[User:HaxLi|HaxLi]] 17:25, 19 March 2014 (CET)

:As I said, I know very little about this matter. It just looks weird to me to write Skeleton Warrior with capitals. Is it not the same as "dog", which is a common noun, and therefore written with smalla letters? (This is a freakish conversation! :]) –[[User:Kapteeni Ruoska|Kapteeni Ruoska]] 19:27, 19 March 2014 (CET)

::If that 'dog' were a warrior in game, then it had to be the 'Dog' :D I made this question bcoz want to decide what to do with [[http://heroes.thelazy.net/wiki/Category:Spell_pictures Spell pictures]] and [[List_of_spells]]. You are the main editor of those files and pages and I ask if I should rename and reupload files with big letters (strange that wiki do not understand those files in different caps) or just make that list with First_caps_names of spells (not standard)? --[[User:HaxLi|HaxLi]] 19:59, 19 March 2014 (CET)

:I still do not get it. :D But I believe you. So, this this means that we have to redirect all the pages I have so "cleverly" already redirected. :( Also, that upload task is a hard one. If you want to do this, I could send you the original pictures. That would at least reduce the burden of downloading all the spell files. –[[User:Kapteeni Ruoska|Kapteeni Ruoska]] 20:05, 19 March 2014 (CET)

::No need to download. I use direct URL from the wiki. I believe there are rename function in this wiki, just disabled for non_admin users.
::Well, hope [[User:Terra|Terra]] don't mind if there'll be duplicate files x] --[[User:HaxLi|HaxLi]] 20:29, 19 March 2014 (CET)

:I've asked [[User:Terra|Terra]] for more power, but he/she seems to be busy. There are a lot of pictures already in the [[:Category:Garbage]], so a few more will not propably be a problem. ;) –[[User:Kapteeni Ruoska|Kapteeni Ruoska]] 20:33, 19 March 2014 (CET)

::Done the renaming job. Found missing spell image [[:Image:Fire Wall.png]]. Look if you have it in your folder ;] --[[User:HaxLi|HaxLi]] 21:38, 19 March 2014 (CET)

::Excellent! I found the fire wall picture and uploaded it.–[[User:Kapteeni Ruoska|Kapteeni Ruoska]] 21:44, 19 March 2014 (CET)

== TIP: Upload file with added category ==

When you upload a file, in summary section you can write/paste a category code. It's faster I guess than to edit each file additionally ;] --[[User:HaxLi|HaxLi]] 12:21, 20 March 2014 (CET)

:Thank you for the tip. I am actually aware of that, but in my opinnion it is faster to just upload them and then (with tabs) edit them again. :) –[[User:Kapteeni Ruoska|Kapteeni Ruoska]] 13:27, 20 March 2014 (CET)

:Uh, actually that is pretty handy. Even although I knew that feature, I just did not thought it before. :) –[[User:Kapteeni Ruoska|Kapteeni Ruoska]] 15:01, 20 March 2014 (CET)

== Simplify creature page names ==

== Move? ==

Maybe we should move creature articles to those plural names as I suggested in [http://heroes.thelazy.net/wiki/User_talk:HaxLi Creature articles – together or separately] question? ;]

e.g. [[Griffin and royal griffin]] redirected to -> [[Griffins]] (plural of the main creature) and put all info about them in that page (including dwellings with their pictures)

So I'll leave the rest unoccupied page names from [[List_of_heroes]] specialties --[[User:HaxLi|HaxLi]] 10:22, 29 March 2014 (CET)

Talk:Dendroids

2014-03-29T09:22:51Z

HaxLi: Move?

== Move? ==

Maybe we should move creature articles to those plural names as I suggested in [http://heroes.thelazy.net/wiki/User_talk:HaxLi Creature articles – together or separately] question? ;]

e.g. [[Griffin and royal griffin]] redirected to -> [[Griffins]] (plural of the main creature) and put all info about them in that page (including dwellings with their pictures)

So I'll leave the rest unoccupied page names from [[List_of_heroes]] specialties --[[User:HaxLi|HaxLi]] 10:22, 29 March 2014 (CET)

Dendroids

2014-03-29T09:12:09Z

HaxLi: Redirected page to Dendroid guard and soldier

#REDIRECT [[Dendroid guard and soldier]]

Unicorns

2014-03-29T09:10:44Z

HaxLi: Redirected page to Unicorn and War Unicorn

#REDIRECT [[Unicorn and War Unicorn]]

Dwarves

2014-03-29T09:09:12Z

HaxLi: Redirected page to Dwarf and Battle Dwarf

#REDIRECT [[Dwarf and Battle Dwarf]]

Template:Rampart hero table

2014-03-29T09:04:32Z

HaxLi: typo

<noinclude>{{Herotable}}</noinclude>
{{Herotablerow|Jenova|Ranger|Gold|Advanced archery||}}
{{Herotablerow|Kyrre|Ranger|Logistics|Basic archery|Basic logistics}}
{{Herotablerow|Gelu|Ranger|Sharpshooters|Basic archery|Basic leadership}}
{{Herotablerow|Ivor|Ranger|Elves|Basic archery|Basic offense}}
{{Herotablerow|Ufretin|Ranger|Dwarves|Basic resistance|Basic luck}}
{{Herotablerow|Clancy|Ranger|Unicorns|Basic resistance|Basic pathfinding}}
{{Herotablerow|Thorgrim|Ranger|Resistance|Advanced resistance||}}
{{Herotablerow|Ryland|Ranger|Dendroids|Basic leadership|Basic diplomacy}}
{{Herotablerow|Mephala|Ranger|Armorer|Basic leadership|Basic armorer}}
{{Herotablerow|Aeris|Druid|Pegasi|Basic wisdom|Basic scouting}}
{{Herotablerow|Alagar|Druid|Ice bolt|Basic wisdom|Basic sorcery}}
{{Herotablerow|Coronius|Druid|Slayer|Basic wisdom|Basic scholar}}
{{Herotablerow|Elleshar|Druid|Intelligence|Basic wisdom|Basic intelligence}}
{{Herotablerow|Malcom|Druid|Eagle eye|Basic wisdom|Basic eagle eye}}
{{Herotablerow|Melodia|Druid|Fortune|Basic wisdom|Basic luck}}
{{Herotablerow|Gem|Druid|First aid|Basic wisdom|Basic first aid}}
{{Herotablerow|Uland|Druid|Cure|Basic wisdom|Basic ballistics}}<noinclude>
|}

[[Category:Table templates|{{PAGENAME}}]]</noinclude>

Sharpshooters

2014-03-29T09:02:06Z

HaxLi: Redirected page to Sharpshooter

#REDIRECT [[Sharpshooter]]

Cavaliers

2014-03-29T09:01:15Z

HaxLi: Redirected page to Cavalier and Champion

#REDIRECT [[Cavalier and Champion]]

Swordsmen

2014-03-29T09:00:43Z

HaxLi: Redirected page to Swordsman and crusader

#REDIRECT [[Swordsman and crusader]]

Archers

2014-03-29T09:00:09Z

HaxLi: Redirected page to Archer and marksman

#REDIRECT [[Archer and marksman]]

Monks

2014-03-29T08:59:21Z

HaxLi: difficult page name ><

#REDIRECT [[Monk and zealot]]

User talk:HaxLi

2014-03-29T08:57:59Z

HaxLi: /* Creature articles – together or separately? */

User talk:HaxLi

2014-03-29T08:56:15Z

HaxLi: /* Creature articles – together or separately? */

Griffins

2014-03-29T08:52:10Z

HaxLi: Redirected page to Griffin and royal griffin

#REDIRECT [[Griffin and royal griffin]]

Monks

2014-03-29T08:47:37Z

HaxLi: Redirected page to Monk

#REDIRECT [[Monk]]

Cavaliers

2014-03-29T08:47:15Z

HaxLi: Redirected page to Cavalier

#REDIRECT [[Cavalier]]

Swordsmen

2014-03-29T08:46:49Z

HaxLi: Redirected page to Swordsman

#REDIRECT [[Swordsman]]

Archers

2014-03-29T08:46:09Z

HaxLi: Redirected page to Archer

#REDIRECT [[Archer]]

Griffins

2014-03-29T08:44:55Z

HaxLi: Redirected page to Griffin

#REDIRECT [[Griffin]]

Template:Hero table row

2014-03-29T08:42:09Z

HaxLi: links to class and specialty

<includeonly>|-
| {{Hn|{{{1}}}}}||[[{{{2}}}]]||[[Image:Specialty_{{{3}}}_small.png]]||{{-}}[[{{{3}}}]]||[[Image:{{{4}}}_small.png]]||{{-}}[[{{{4}}}]]||{{{6|[[Image:{{{5}}}_small.png]]}}}||{{-}}{{{6|[[{{{5}}}]]}}}</includeonly><noinclude>

== Variables ==
# Hero name
# Class
# Specialty
# Skill 1
# Skill 2
# If empty Skill 2

== Use ==
<pre>{{Herotable}}
{{Herotablerow|'name'|'class'|'specialty'|'skill 1'|'skill 2'}}
|}</pre>

== Code preview ==
{{Herotable}}


{{Herotablerow|General Kendal|Necromancer|Meteor shower|Advanced necromancy|Advanced scouting}}

{{Herotablerow|Gelu|Ranger|Sharpshooters|Basic archery|Basic leadership}}
|}

[[Category: Table templates|{{PAGENAME}}]]</noinclude>

Template:Creature table row

2014-03-29T08:38:23Z

HaxLi: some code

<includeonly>|-align=center
|align=left|{{Cn|{{{1}}}}}||align=left|[[{{{2}}} town|{{{2}}}]]||{{{3}}}||{{{4}}}||{{{5}}}||{{{6}}}||{{{7}}}||{{{8}}}||{{{9}}}||align=right|{{{10}}} {{gold}}||{{{11|}}}||align=left|{{-}}{{{12|}}}</includeonly><noinclude>

== Variables ==
# Creature Name
# Town
# Level
# Attack
# Defense
# Minimum damage
# Maximum damage
# Health
# Speed
# Cost ({{gold}})
# Resource ({{mercury}}, {{sulfur}}, {{crystal}} or {{gem}})
# Special

== Use ==
<pre>{{Creaturetable}}
{{Creaturetablerow|'name'|'town'|'lvl'|'att'|'def'|'min'|'max'|'hp'|'spd'|'cost'|'res'|'spec'}}
|}</pre>

== Code preview ==
{{Creaturetable}}
|- align=center
| align=left |{{Cn|Imp}}|| align=left |{{-}}Meh||3{{-}}||4{{-}}||5{{-}}||6{{-}}||7{{-}}||8{{-}}||9{{-}}|| align=right |1000 {{gold}}{{-}}|| align=right | || align=left |{{-}}12 Meh Meh
|- align=center
| align=left |{{Cn|Imp}}|| align=left |{{-}}Meh||3{{-}}||4{{-}}||5{{-}}||6{{-}}||7{{-}}||8{{-}}||9{{-}}|| align=right |1000 {{gold}}{{-}}|| align=right | || align=left |{{-}}12 Meh Meh
|- align=center
| align=left |{{Cn|Imp}}|| align=left |{{-}}Meh||3{{-}}||4{{-}}||5{{-}}||6{{-}}||7{{-}}||8{{-}}||9{{-}}|| align=right |1000 {{gold}}{{-}}|| align=right |11 {{Mercury}}|| align=left |{{-}}12 Meh Meh
|- align=center
| align=left |{{Cn|Imp}}|| align=left |{{-}}Meh||3{{-}}||4{{-}}||5{{-}}||6{{-}}||7{{-}}||8{{-}}||9{{-}}|| align=right |1000 {{gold}}{{-}}|| align=right |11 {{sulfur}}|| align=left |{{-}}12 Meh Meh
|}

== See also ==
[[:Template:Creaturetable]]

[[Category: Table templates|{{PAGENAME}}]]
__NOTOC__</noinclude>

User talk:HaxLi

2014-03-29T08:19:48Z

HaxLi: /* Creature articles – together or separately? */

User talk:HaxLi

2014-03-29T07:14:06Z

HaxLi: /* Creature articles – together or separately? */

Fortress

2014-03-28T20:28:48Z

HaxLi: some page design fixes

[[Image:Fortress-out.png|frame|200px|Fortress town seen on the [[adventure map]].]]

The '''fortress town''' is a neutral [[alignment]] [[town type]] with [[beastmaster]] and [[witch]] [[hero class]]es. Fortress towns are built at the edge of swamps. Their armies are primarily made up of deadly creatures – born of the swamps, and then subdued and trained for warfare. While among them there is only one ranged attack creature, Fortress units are possessed of many special abilities to offset this deficiency.

== Buildings ==
{{Fortress buildings}}

[[Image:Fortress-in.png|500px|Fortress town seen from inside.]]

==Heroes==
{{Herotable}}
{{Herotablerow Fortress}}
|}
[[List of heroes|List of all heroes]]

==Creatures==
{{Creaturetable}}
{{Creaturetablerow Fortress}}
|}
[[List of creatures|List of all creatures]]

==Additional Information==
* [[Alignment]]: Neutral
* [[Native Terrain]]: [[Swamp]]

===Pros===
*High defense (Defense themed town)
*With a two-hex [[moat]] and several buildings which increase the stats of the defending hero, a Fortress castle is a real pain to attack.
*Resilient hand-to-hand troops with excellent specials ([[Death Stare]], [[Petrify]], [[Poison]])
*Their swamp native terrain makes them move much faster than any hero (without [[pathfinding]]) in the swamp.
*The [[Wyvern Nest]] is very cheap and has very low requirements compared to the other level 6 dwellings, allowing the Fortress town to get level 6 units in their army very early.

===Cons===
*Highest level [[Mage Guild]] is 3.
*Some creatures have poor stats (in {{sod}} some stats for [[Lizardman]]/[[Lizard Warrior]] and [[Serpent Fly]]/[[Dragon Fly]] were increased, but overall they are still relatively weak. In wake of gods, this can be fixed by use of some settings making Fortress creatures better)
*With two relatively weak fliers (lvl 3 with 20 hp, lvl 6 with 70 (!) hp) and one very weak shooter, the Fortress has a very hard time invading other towns properly. So Expert [[Ballistics]], Expert [[Teleport]] and/or Expert [[Earthquake]] are a must.

===Town Costs===
["Basic" includes Citadel, Castle & any prerequisites;
"Upgrades" also includes prerequisites]

{| class=wikitable
!Resource!!Basic!!Upgrades!!All
|-
|{{Gold}}||28900||25500||91400
|-
|{{Wood}}||70||50||175
|-
|{{Ore}}||45||20||105
|-
|{{Crystal||0||0||10
|-
|{{Gem}}||0||0||10
|-
|{{Mercury}}||7||12||29
|-
|{{Sulfur}}||17||22||49
|-
!colspan=2| Troop cost/week: !!colspan=2| 26660 {{Gold}} 2 {{Sulfur}}
|}

==Related==
[[Defense Skill|Defense]], [[Armorer]]

{{Town creatures
| town = Fortress
| lvl_1B = Gnoll
| lvl_1U = Gnoll marauder
| lvl_2B = Lizardman
| lvl_2U = Lizard warrior
| lvl_3B = Serpent fly
| lvl_3U = Dragon fly
| lvl_4B = Basilisk
| lvl_4U = Greater basilisk
| lvl_5B = Gorgon
| lvl_5U = Mighty gorgon
| lvl_6B = Wyvern
| lvl_6U = Wyvern monarch
| lvl_7B = Hydra
| lvl_7U = Chaos hydra
}}

{{Towns}}

[[Category: Towns]]

Fortress

2014-03-28T20:25:13Z

HaxLi: /* Buildings */ maybe it's a good idea to remove duplicate links since :Template:Fortress buildings is in use

[[Image:Fortress-out.png|frame|200px|Fortress town seen on the [[adventure map]].]]

The '''fortress town''' is a neutral [[alignment]] [[town type]] with [[beastmaster]] and [[witch]] [[hero class]]es. Fortress towns are built at the edge of swamps. Their armies are primarily made up of deadly creatures – born of the swamps, and then subdued and trained for warfare. While among them there is only one ranged attack creature, Fortress units are possessed of many special abilities to offset this deficiency.

== Buildings ==
{{Fortress buildings}}

[[Image:Fortress-in.png|thumb|left|500px|Fortress town seen from inside.]]

==Heroes==
{{Herotable}}
{{Herotablerow Fortress}}
|}
[[List of heroes|List of all heroes]]

==Creatures==
{{Creaturetable}}
{{Creaturetablerow Fortress}}
|}
[[List of creatures|List of all creatures]]

==Additional Information==
* [[Alignment]]: Neutral
* [[Native Terrain]]: [[Swamp]]

===Pros===
*High defense (Defense themed town)
*With a two-hex [[moat]] and several buildings which increase the stats of the defending hero, a Fortress castle is a real pain to attack.
*Resilient hand-to-hand troops with excellent specials ([[Death Stare]], [[Petrify]], [[Poison]])
*Their swamp native terrain makes them move much faster than any hero (without [[pathfinding]]) in the swamp.
*The [[Wyvern Nest]] is very cheap and has very low requirements compared to the other level 6 dwellings, allowing the Fortress town to get level 6 units in their army very early.

===Cons===
*Highest level [[Mage Guild]] is 3.
*Some creatures have poor stats (in {{sod}} some stats for [[Lizardman]]/[[Lizard Warrior]] and [[Serpent Fly]]/[[Dragon Fly]] were increased, but overall they are still relatively weak. In wake of gods, this can be fixed by use of some settings making Fortress creatures better)
*With two relatively weak fliers (lvl 3 with 20 hp, lvl 6 with 70 (!) hp) and one very weak shooter, the Fortress has a very hard time invading other towns properly. So Expert [[Ballistics]], Expert [[Teleport]] and/or Expert [[Earthquake]] are a must.

===Town Costs===
["Basic" includes Citadel, Castle & any prerequisites;
"Upgrades" also includes prerequisites]

{| class=wikitable
!Resource!!Basic!!Upgrades!!All
|-
|{{Gold}}||28900||25500||91400
|-
|{{Wood}}||70||50||175
|-
|{{Ore}}||45||20||105
|-
|{{Crystal||0||0||10
|-
|{{Gem}}||0||0||10
|-
|{{Mercury}}||7||12||29
|-
|{{Sulfur}}||17||22||49
|-
!colspan=2| Troop cost/week: !!colspan=2| 26660 {{Gold}} 2 {{Sulfur}}
|}

==Related==
[[Defense Skill|Defense]], [[Armorer]]

{{Town creatures
| town = Fortress
| lvl_1B = Gnoll
| lvl_1U = Gnoll marauder
| lvl_2B = Lizardman
| lvl_2U = Lizard warrior
| lvl_3B = Serpent fly
| lvl_3U = Dragon fly
| lvl_4B = Basilisk
| lvl_4U = Greater basilisk
| lvl_5B = Gorgon
| lvl_5U = Mighty gorgon
| lvl_6B = Wyvern
| lvl_6U = Wyvern monarch
| lvl_7B = Hydra
| lvl_7U = Chaos hydra
}}

{{Towns}}

[[Category: Towns]]

Creatures of Castle town

2014-03-28T19:41:49Z

HaxLi:

{{Creaturetable}}
{{Creaturetablerow Castle}}
|}

== See also ==
* [[Creature]]

[[Category: Creatures]]
__NOTOC__

User talk:HaxLi

2014-03-28T18:54:05Z

HaxLi: /* Creature articles – together or separately? */

Treasure Chest

2014-03-24T13:11:09Z

HaxLi: no, better with (or) to be more clear ><

{{Table|Chance|Content}}
|32%||  500 exp or 1000 {{Gold}}
|-
|32%||1000 exp or 1500 {{Gold}}
|-
|31%||1500 exp or 2000 {{Gold}}
|-
|5%||Artifact
|}

'''Treasure Chest''' is an [[adventure map]] object, that can be gathered with a hero. It gives either [[gold]] for the kingdom, experience or an [[artifact]] for the hero. When picked up by a hero, a Treasure Chest offers the hero a choice to recieve either [[gold]] or [[experience]] from the chest. If the chest contains an artifact, the player recieves no choise but a random treasure class artifact is put in the hero's backpack. If the hero's backpack is full, the chest offers gold and experience. The chest disappears after the hero picks it up.

[[Category: Adventure map]]

Treasure Chest

2014-03-24T13:09:48Z

HaxLi: I would write (or) --> (/)

{{Table|Chance|Content}}
|32%||  500 exp / 1000 {{Gold}}
|-
|32%||1000 exp / 1500 {{Gold}}
|-
|31%||1500 exp / 2000 {{Gold}}
|-
|5%||Artifact
|}

'''Treasure Chest''' is an [[adventure map]] object, that can be gathered with a hero. It gives either [[gold]] for the kingdom, experience or an [[artifact]] for the hero. When picked up by a hero, a Treasure Chest offers the hero a choice to recieve either [[gold]] or [[experience]] from the chest. If the chest contains an artifact, the player recieves no choise but a random treasure class artifact is put in the hero's backpack. If the hero's backpack is full, the chest offers gold and experience. The chest disappears after the hero picks it up.

[[Category: Adventure map]]

Template talk:Table row

2014-03-24T13:03:56Z

HaxLi:

It's fun to test things here xD

I believe code had to be:
|-
| <nowiki>{{{1|}}} || {{{2|}}}</nowiki>

And maybe used to add empty row? --[[User:HaxLi|HaxLi]] 13:44, 24 March 2014 (CET)

:Oh no, I was just dum! :D I meant to make things easier by using this template in all the "neutral tables". Then I realized, that there is not much point there, because basically only thing that gets easier, is that you do not have to write |- between evry row change. The [[:Template:Table]] takes care of the rest. –[[User:Kapteeni Ruoska|Kapteeni Ruoska]] 13:50, 24 March 2014 (CET)

Well, indeed, you add +2 additional chars to it x]

6 chars (including enter)
|-
|x||x

8 chars (could be 7 if one letter template)
<nowiki>{{Tr|x|x}}</nowiki>

It could work, if that table had more columns ;] --[[User:HaxLi|HaxLi]] 14:03, 24 March 2014 (CET)

Talk:Golem

2014-03-24T12:55:50Z

HaxLi: /* Creatures */

== Similarities ==

[[Golem]] and [[Unliving]] means the same to me acording to this wiki >_<. Not sure but seems like a merge would be a good idea x] --[[User:HaxLi|HaxLi]] 13:49, 21 March 2014 (CET)

:I think one of the differences is, that all golems are non-living, but all non-living are not golems. For exampel undead are non-living. So non-living is more a term than a creature type. And therefore I would keep them seperate articles. –[[User:Kapteeni Ruoska|Kapteeni Ruoska]] 21:54, 23 March 2014 (CET)

:Uh, I was too hasty. You meant unliving, not non-living. But, I think unliving means the same thing as non-living. –[[User:Kapteeni Ruoska|Kapteeni Ruoska]] 21:56, 23 March 2014 (CET)

::Well in [[List of creatures]] there are creatures who are called Unlivings as speciality, that's why I am confused x] Found an old [[Non-living]] article.. but it has the same info, exep there were no Undeads mentioned, but I guess they mach there --[[User:HaxLi|HaxLi]] 22:01, 23 March 2014 (CET)

:::As I said, I think it is mostly about definition. I mean the immunities may be very similar or even the same. I am a bit confused about this conversation, so I will say that IMO, we should have [[Non-living]] and [[Unliving]] articles combined, and separated from [[Golem]] article. –[[User:Kapteeni Ruoska|Kapteeni Ruoska]] 22:04, 23 March 2014 (CET)

== Creatures ==
Not sure, but maybe I merged {{Cn|Stone Gargoyle}}, {{Cn|Obsidian Gargoyle}} and {{Cn|Crystal Dragon}} incorrectly, but should we move those to a [[Non-living]] category then? This is so confusing x] --[[User:HaxLi|HaxLi]] 00:04, 24 March 2014 (CET)

:I would say yes, though I am not totally sure. Because technically Stone Gargoyle is not a golem, but it is Unliving/Non-living. BTW, which is the term the game uses? –[[User:Kapteeni Ruoska|Kapteeni Ruoska]] 08:39, 24 March 2014 (CET)

::If i knew where to look at.. >_< Under the {{Cn|Stone Gargoyle}} I see nothing as Specialty in {{sod}} --[[User:HaxLi|HaxLi]] 13:55, 24 March 2014 (CET)

Talk:Rampart

2014-03-24T12:48:47Z

HaxLi: /* Related Luck and Resistance */

== Related Luck and Resistance ==

Found that Relation heading in [http://heroes.thelazy.net/wiki/Rampart_town&oldid=1592#Related History] page x]

IMO it was there, bcoz [[Luck_(skill)]] has that horseshoe which associates with Rampart horses somehow ({{Hn|Melodia}} specializes in [[Image:Specialty_Fortune_small.png]] Fortune)

And [[Resistance]] which is {{Cn|Dwarf}}s and {{Cn|Unicorn}}s Special ability with Heroes {{Hn|Thorgrim}}, {{Hn|Ufretin}} and {{Hn|Clancy}}

:How does a horseshoe relate to Ramapart, I did not get that? :) There is a vague relation with luck, as the Rampart's grail building also gives luck and many of the Rampart heroes have luck as a strating skill. In the same sense Leadership relates to Castle (grail building, starting skills). In conclusion, I am willing to admit, that Rampart have some links to Luck, but not enought to say that Luck as Secondary Skill is somehow related to an entire Town. But then again, it is just me. :P –[[User:Kapteeni Ruoska|Kapteeni Ruoska]] 11:55, 24 March 2014 (CET)

::I agree, no need to add unescessary and vague relation info to pages x] --[[User:HaxLi|HaxLi]] 13:48, 24 March 2014 (CET)

Template talk:Table row

2014-03-24T12:44:53Z

HaxLi: Created page with "It's fun to test things here xD I believe code had to be: |- | <nowiki>{{{1|}}} || {{{2|}}}</nowiki> And maybe used to add empty row? --~~~~"

It's fun to test things here xD

I believe code had to be:
|-
| <nowiki>{{{1|}}} || {{{2|}}}</nowiki>

And maybe used to add empty row? --[[User:HaxLi|HaxLi]] 13:44, 24 March 2014 (CET)

Template:Creature

2014-03-24T12:38:25Z

HaxLi: color

{| cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 style="background-color: #CCF; border-width: 0px; float: {{{float|right}}};" cellpadding="3";
|-
| colspan=5 align=center bgcolor=#55D style="color:#FFF" | {{{Neutral|'''Level {{{lvl}}} creatures of [[{{{Town}}}|{{{Town}}}]]''' }}} ''[[Growth|Basic growth]]: {{{Growth}}}''
|-
| colspan="5" align="center" | '''{{{Name}}}'''
|-
| rowspan="4" align=center valign=center | [[Image: Creature {{{Image|{{{Name}}}}}}.gif]]
| '''[[Primary skill#attack skill|Attack]]'''
| {{{Attack}}}
| '''[[Speed]]'''
| {{{Speed}}}
|-
| '''[[Primary skill#defense skill|Defense]]'''
| {{{Defense|{{{Defence}}}}}}
| '''[[Movement (combat)|Movement]]'''
| {{{Movement|}}}
|-
| '''[[Damage]]'''
| {{{Damage}}}
| {{{No_shots|'''[[Shots]]'''}}}
| {{{Shots|}}}
|- valign="top"
| '''[[Health]]'''
| {{{Health}}}
| '''[[Cost]]'''
| {{{Cost}}} {{Gold}}
|-
| colspan="5" width=300 | {{{No_spec|'''Special:''' {{{Special}}}}}}
|-
| colspan="5" align="center" | {{{Onlyone|'''{{{U_name|<noinclude>-</noinclude>}}}'''}}}
|-
| rowspan="4" align=center valign=center | {{{Onlyone|[[Image:Creature {{{U_image|{{{U_name|}}}}}}.gif]] }}}
| {{{Onlyone|'''[[Primary skill#attack skill|Attack]]''' }}}
| {{{Onlyone|{{{U_attack}}} }}}
| {{{Onlyone|'''[[Speed]]''' }}}
| {{{Onlyone|{{{U_speed}}} }}}
|-
| {{{Onlyone|'''[[Primary skill#defense skill|Defense]]''' }}}
| {{{Onlyone|{{{U_defense|{{{U_defence}}}}}} }}}
| {{{Onlyone|'''[[Movement (combat)|Movement]]''' }}}
| {{{Onlyone|{{{U_movement|}}} }}}
|-
| {{{Onlyone|'''[[Damage]]''' }}}
| {{{Onlyone|{{{U_damage}}} }}}
| {{{Onlyone|{{{No_shots|'''[[Shots]]'''}}} }}}
| {{{Onlyone|{{{U_shots|}}}
|- valign="top"
| {{{Onlyone|'''[[Health]]''' }}}
| {{{Onlyone|{{{U_health}}} }}}
| {{{Onlyone|'''[[Cost]]''' }}}
| {{{Onlyone|{{{U_cost}}} {{Gold}} }}}
|-
| colspan="5" width=300 | {{{Onlyone|{{{No_U_spec|'''Special:''' {{{U_special}}} }}} }}}
|}<noinclude>

== How to use ==
Copy the code at the beginning of the creature article, and fill in the missing information. Notice, that the factors below are case sensitive meaning, that "Town" is not the same as "town".

{| style="background: transparent;"
| <pre>{{Creature
| Town =
| lvl =
| Growth =
| Name =
| Attack =
| Defense =
| Damage =
| Health =
| Speed =
| Movement =
| Shots =
| Cost =
| Special =
| U_name =
| U_attack =
| U_defense =
| U_damage =
| U_health =
| U_speed =
| U_movement =
| U_shots =
| U_cost =
| U_special =
}} </pre>
|}

If only one set of information is needed (e.g. [[neutral creature]]s, you can add the following row with no value:
<pre>
| Onlyone = </pre>

[[Category:Templates|{{PAGENAME}}]]</noinclude>

Template:Creature table

2014-03-24T12:05:42Z

HaxLi: some color change; some width fix

{| cellpadding=0 cellspacing=0 border=0 style="width:100%; background-color:#DDE; border: 1px solid #000;" class="sortable"
|- bgcolor=#449 align=center style="color:#DDF;"
| width=143 align=left | {{-}}'''Creature name'''
| width=70 align=left | '''Town'''
| width=30 | '''Lvl'''
| width=30 | '''Att'''
| width=30 | '''Def'''
| width=30 | '''D(-)'''
| width=30 | '''D(+)'''
| width=30 | '''Hlth'''
| width=30 | '''Spd'''
| width=50 | '''Cost'''
| width=35 class="unsortable" | 
| align=left class="unsortable" | {{-}}'''Special'''<noinclude>


{{Creaturetablerow|Psychic Elemental|Necropolis|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|30000|11 {{sulfur}}|[[Elemental|Elem]], [[Ranged attack|Ranged]], No [[Melee penalty|Melee]], Cast [[Protection from Water|Protection]], [[Spell immunity|Resist]] [[Water spell|Water]], Weak [[Fire spell|Fire]]}}
|}

== See also ==
* [[:Template: Creaturetablerow]]

[[Category: Table templates|{{PAGENAME}}]]</noinclude>

Basic archery

2014-03-24T11:27:47Z

HaxLi: #REDIRECT Archery

#REDIRECT [[Archery]]

Template:Hero table row

2014-03-24T11:25:37Z

HaxLi: /* Code preview */

<includeonly>|-
| {{Hn|{{{1}}}}}||{{{2}}}||[[Image:Specialty_{{{3}}}_small.png]]||{{-}}{{{3}}}||[[Image:{{{4}}}_small.png]]||{{-}}[[{{{4}}}]]||{{{6|[[Image:{{{5}}}_small.png]]}}}||{{-}}{{{6|[[{{{5}}}]]}}}</includeonly><noinclude>

== Variables ==
# Hero name
# Class
# Specialty
# Skill 1
# Skill 2
# If empty Skill 2

== Use ==
<pre>{{Herotable}}
{{Herotablerow|'name'|'class'|'specialty'|'skill 1'|'skill 2'}}
|}</pre>

== Code preview ==
{{Herotable}}


{{Herotablerow|General Kendal|Necromancer|Meteor shower|Advanced necromancy|Advanced scouting}}

{{Herotablerow|Gelu|Ranger|Sharpshooters|Basic archery|Basic leadership}}
|}

[[Category: Table templates|{{PAGENAME}}]]</noinclude>

Template:Hero table row

2014-03-24T11:23:04Z

HaxLi: /* Code preview */

<includeonly>|-
| {{Hn|{{{1}}}}}||{{{2}}}||[[Image:Specialty_{{{3}}}_small.png]]||{{-}}{{{3}}}||[[Image:{{{4}}}_small.png]]||{{-}}[[{{{4}}}]]||{{{6|[[Image:{{{5}}}_small.png]]}}}||{{-}}{{{6|[[{{{5}}}]]}}}</includeonly><noinclude>

== Variables ==
# Hero name
# Class
# Specialty
# Skill 1
# Skill 2
# If empty Skill 2

== Use ==
<pre>{{Herotable}}
{{Herotablerow|'name'|'class'|'specialty'|'skill 1'|'skill 2'}}
|}</pre>

== Code preview ==
{{Herotable}}


|-
| {{Hn|General Kendal}}
| Necromancer
| [[Image:Specialty Meteor shower small.png]]
|  Meteor shower
| [[Image:Advanced necromancy small.png]]
|  Advanced necromancy
| [[Image:Advanced scouting small.png]]
|  Advanced scouting


{{Herotablerow|Gelu|Ranger|Sharpshooters|Basic archery|Basic leadership}}
|}

[[Category: Table templates|{{PAGENAME}}]]</noinclude>