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== Shandar River ==

Hi! I've been meaning to respond to your thoughts on the Shandar River and the north Deyja lake for quite some time now, but can't remember on which talk you posted them. Would appreciate you giving a link. In the meantime, since I do remember the main gist, I'll respond here.

You indeed may be on to something with the shape of the lake on the map and how the Shandar's. Perhaps the map maker who made that scenario in SoD had that lake in mind in a way. Hard to say with certaintly, but is possible that it was

However, lore-wise it is hardly supposed to be that lake. The shape still doesn't look 1-to-1 (though there is some passing resemblance). Also, the general context of the campagn oes point out to it being in the western AvLee, not south AvLee, both [[Search for a Killer]] itself and [[To Strive, To Seek]], the latter taking place by a small tributary of the Shandar. Of course, that small tributary could still be in that part of AvLee even if the large lake is part of the main river's system. But still, it does point to that the Shandar is indeed supposed to be in the western reaches of AvLee, near the RoE-period porders with Erathia and Deyja.

But there's also the broader context and the plot of the mission:

For one thing, the scenario does call it a river, and even with that lake being connected to the Shandar, lakes are still called lakes in such cases, as far as I know. The scenario does allude to Gelu's forces navigating the actual river currents, and the message conveyed to the player is that a river divides the scenario map, not a lake.

Secondly, if we assume that it's the same lake, that would mean that Gelu actually invades a huge swath of Deyja's northern border, including the areas featured in MM7, even the one with the [[Hall of the Pit]], thus near the capital. The plot of the scenario, however, doesn't really point to something like that.

I'm quite sure the Shandar just isn't represented on the SoD campaign maps. Kinda like the [[Steadwick#Gallery|huge lake which Steadwick is on]] also isn't. --[[User:XEL|XEL]] ([[User talk:XEL|talk]]) 00:06, 16 August 2025 (UTC)
* [[Talk:Search for a Killer]] is where I put some comments. We should probably centralize this whole discussion to [[Talk: Shandar River]] and try to correlate all the sources of info we have on it. I assume the Shandar isn't mentioned in mm7? --[[User:Legate|Legate]] ([[User talk:Legate|talk]]) 02:11, 19 August 2025 (UTC)
::No, it's not. --[[User:XEL|XEL]] ([[User talk:XEL|talk]]) 11:20, 19 August 2025 (UTC)
::Also, made a centralized thread. [[Talk:Shandar_River#The_Deyjan_Lake_and_the_Shandar]] --[[User:XEL|XEL]] ([[User talk:XEL|talk]]) 11:35, 19 August 2025 (UTC)