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== Request - Small Town Changes ==
'''[Fortress]'''

It has some good 5-7 LvL units, but the first 1-2 LvL are rather boring. Maybe that's why you can build Wyvern Nest so early? I remember that WOG added some kind of Preemptive Strike to Gnolls, and Double Attack to Lizards at Upgade. Preemptive Gnoll Atk. would be probably weird to implement (or not? Gunslingers have some Preemptive Shot, right?), and it honestly isn't that necessary, but the ''only'' Fortress Archer deserves some love :D

'''''+Lizard Warrior (the Upg. Archer) -''''' Add ''Double Attack'' (like Marksman, Grand Elf), Nerf Dmg to 2-4 from 2-5, Def to 6-7 down from 8, Health to 14 from 15. ''Maybe'' increase cost by 20-40g per unit? ''// It's more fun when a town has at least One viable Shooter unit. Most 2nd LvL Shooters in other towns like Marksman, Storm Elementals (especially those), Magogs, are much more powerful and even Halflings, a 1st LvL unit, have some special abilities now. A mostly 'defensive'/'tanky' 1-shot Archer is kinda dumb.''

'''''-Glyphs of Fear -''''' Cost increase by 2-4 Ore? ''// As a slight nerf to offset buffing Upg. Lizards, and Siege Defense Buildings usually cost something more in addition to gold.''

'''''-Blood Obelisk -''''' Cost increase by 2-4 Ore? ''// As a slight nerf to offset buffing Upg. Lizards, and Siege Defense Buildings usually cost something more in addition to gold.''

'''[Dungeon]'''

'''''+Scorpicore -''''' Maybe a small Dmg boost from 14-20 to 15/16-21/22, +10-20 HP? And a -2 Sulfur & -2 Mercury cost reduction to Manticore (Base) Dwelling? - Base Manticores don't have Special Abilities like Paralyzing Venom, so the first building is a bit costly too. ''// They kinda suck stat-wise as an Upg. 6th lvl unit. Compared to other creatures at the same Tier, they're the weakest of them all, cost more than better equivalents, die very easily and don't do much Dmg on the frontline. Paralyze is good, but it has a lower chance of triggering than Wyvern Monarch Poison; Unicorns have much frontline stats, Blind AND Magic resistance, AND cost ''less''; Cyclops can attack from a safe distance and Shoot walls; Cavaliers have Jousting; Efreeti have really solid stats, Fire Immunity and get Fire Shield at Upg., etc.''

'''''+Dragon Cave (Base) -''''' Wood cost reduced to 10 down from 15? Maybe stone down to 10 too? Potentially in exchange for making the Dwelling Upg. cost 20 Wood & Ore instead, up from 15?  ''// Wood and Ore usually aren't a problem but it would be a small boost to get Red Dragons earlier, and diversify building costs between Base and Upg. Dwelling. (Rampart Dragon Cliffs have a Gold Increase between Base/Upgrade costs, Inferno Palace lessens Wood/Ore but Increases Gold. Some Towns have the same cost for 7th Base & Upg. Dwellings, but I think it would fit Dungeon to have that small bit of upgrade cost variety as Rampart, with its Dragon equivalent, has it too.)''

Probably my last suggestions for a while :D

Can't wait for the next patch!

- Eldrin

** You'll see a different Lizard Warrior buff in 1.3.1. Don't wanna give away too much before the big day. 
** Scorpicores were buffed - now paralyse hits 25% of the time. 
** Glyphs of Fear and Blood Obelisk are rather weak. 
** Dragon Cave - There is a cost reduction for unupgraded dragon dwelling (by reducing cost of Manticore lair as a proxy). But know that I am a capricious lover and I take back everything I give, sometimes twofold. - [[User:Csaros|Csaros]] ([[User talk:Csaros|talk]])

'''Lizard Warrior''' - OK.

'''Glyph/Obelisk''' - Sure, OK.

'''Manticores/Scorpicores''' - Consider that they are still relatively weak, potentially the weakest, even with better Paralyse proc chance (and you did buff other 6th Tier and Lesser Creatures procs while boosting Paralyse, like Unicorn Blind, Death Knight Blow, Thunderbird, Basilisk, Medusa, ... - I do like it, but it doesn't equalize Scorpicores that much). Iirc WOG buffed Scorpicores to 18-22 Dmg like Wyvern Monarchs (and Poison is 30% on those, right?) and they still felt borderline underwhelming, and rather not worth the Sulfur and Gold Dwelling cost. 

Maybe if you don't want higher Dmg on them, what about making the Scorpicores Upgrade a bit hardier with +15-20 HP, so that they can survive more to try proc some Venom, and at least Cutting Sulfur and reducing the Gold Costs (-1000g so the Base gold costs would be similar to other Unupgraded 6th Tier Dwellings - ''Fire Lake, Unicorn Glade, Golden Pavilion, Nix Fort, Watchtower'', all 4000g for much better 6th Tier Unit Dwellings) from the Base Manticore Dwelling so that players wouldn't be inclined to skip it in favor of hoarding Sulfur for Dragon Cave. Base Manticore is ''really'' similar to Wyverns, but you can find Wyverns by freeing them from Dragonfly Dens and ''Wyvern Nest'' Costs 3500g + 15 Wood, while ''Manticores Lair'' Costs 5000g + 5 Sulfur + 5 Mercury + 5 Wood + 5 Ore. The more valuable resources Sulfur and Mercury, and 1500 higher Gold are a rather steep price considering that Manticores don't have Venom or any kind of other special ability or passive yet. Wyvern Monarch Dwelling only adds valuable resources like 10 Mercury on top to the Upgrade Cost once the creatures learn Poison. Unicorns, Efreets, Naga, etc. All have Special Abilities at Base, and so their 1st Unupgraded Dwellings cost valuable/rarer resources like Gems, Sulfur, Mercury, Crystals. 

Cyclops Dwelling Costs only Ore+Gold at base, and they're Shooters, with ''Siege Walls'', similar stats to Manticores, better Minimum Dmg [16-20 vs Manticore 14-20] and Cost ''Less'' [Cyclops 750g vs Manticore 850g]. Only Cavaliers and Black Knights have a 5000g/6000g 1st Dwelling Cost, and still no special resources at Base, only Wood/Ore, and both are ''much'' better 6th Tier Units than Manticore statwise. Base Cavalier even has the Jousting ability already. And there exist Base Dwellings that Cost even less than 4000g, like ''Altar of Thought'' 3000g, ''Cyclops Cave'' 3500g, both giving better Units.

An Unupgraded Efreety packs more punch (16-24), has more Health (90) and some nice passive immunity, costing 900g/unit - stronger than 1050g Scorpicore. An Upg. Efreety Sultan costing 1100g (50g more than Scorpicore), has still better Dmg and HP stats, passive immunity and Fire Shield. Unicorns have Blind/Res at base, 18-22 Dmg, 90 HP, at the Cost of 850g, while War Unicorns have Blind/Res, same Dmg, 110 HP at the Cost of 950g.

'''Dragon Cave''' - Np, I develop Tabletops in my free time, so I know how balancing likes to meander XD. Should be OK tho. And feel free to add those -5 Wood/Ore as +5 Wood/Ore ''Cost Increase'' to the Upgradable Black Dragon Cave - should balance it out (like Ramparts Dragon Cliff does, just with Gold instead of Resources, Base 10000g vs Upg. 20000g, same 30 Ore + 20 Crystals on Base and Upg. Costs).

And no, I don't favor Dungeon/Scorpicore as my Town/Creature of Choice, even if it sounds like that XD ''(The Statistics speak for themselves!)''

- Eldrin

* Fair enough, I just checked the numbers and yeah Scorpicores are trash. They'll get a small number buff. - [[User:Csaros|Csaros]] ([[User talk:Csaros|talk]])

''And'' the Manticore Lair (Base) -5 Sulfur, -1000g? To 4000g, 5 Mercury, 5 Wood, 5 Ore? ''*Nudge, Nudge*'' :D

The Cost of Base Lair actually started bothering me more and more the deeper I went into comparing Manticores against other, ''proper'' Tier 6 Units and ''their'' usual Dwelling Costs.

The (Upg.) Manticore Lair Costs can freely remain as they are.

Manticores/Scorpicores really are rather Trashtier 6th lvls. You can always reverse the Cost/Stat Changes later, if it altogether becomes a too strong Buff to Dungeon. Although I honestly doubt that it will end up feeling that way. 

- Eldrin.

* Hey Eldrin, check out 1.3.1! A lot of the stuff you've asked for is here! - [[User:Csaros|Csaros]] ([[User talk:Csaros|talk]])

Zgaduję, że skoro planujesz zrobić własne polskie tłumaczenie, to pewnie komunikacja po polsku będzie łatwiejsza? (Skoryguj mnie jeśli angielski jest dla ciebie wygodniejszy!)

Ogólnie, wszystkie zmiany są raczej krokiem w dobrym kierunku, chociaż może w niektórych przypadkach nie są one aż tak dotkliwe jak bym tego pragnął :D

Tylko, że coś występuje kilka problemów w mojej wersji H3. Po skopiowaniu 1.3.1 wyskakuje mi błąd (ResourceManager::GetBitmap816 could not find "bitmap8" resource "HPS219Sh.PCX) i zniknął polepszony wgląd Bohaterów (szczegółowe info miast tylko wyświetlania Specjalności Bohaterów) - niestety nie mam uprawnień by dzielić się tutaj linkami do screenshotów ;/ . Błąd naprawiłem, gdy po porównaniu 1.3.1 z archiwum poprzedniej wersji zauważyłem, że pliki ''Hota.lod'' i ''Hota_lng.lod'', mają iść do folderu ''Data'' (wtedy też zmiany zaczęły funkcjonować gdy odpaliłem jakąś mapę), ale wgląd Bohaterów nadal jest 'uproszczony', więc zgaduję, że coś jest jeszcze nie tak? Po pierszym skopiowaniu plików nie działało, zrobiłem świeżą instalkę, update HD moda i dopiero po tym zauważyłem to z plikami do ''Data'' - dzisiaj 21.10 HD mod też dostał jakąś łatkę, to może to coś sknociło? Bo jak skopiowałem Pumpkin 1.3.0 to też szczegółowego wglądu brakowało. Chyba, że jeszcze czegoś brakuje w folderze Data 1.3.1? (Mam Angielską wersję GOG)

// Update: Yup, coś jest zdecydowanie nie tak, bo po restarcie gry, zmiany Pumpkin Patcha przestały funkcjonować.

- Eldrin

Dla mnie polski, angielski, hiszpański - obojętnie. Spróbuj proszę pobrac ponownie 131 i przenieść Hota_lng.lod i Hota_lod do folderu Data. Czy teraz wszystko działa? Dzisiaj testowałem i było ok... Jak chodzi o szczegółowe info - co konkretnie nie działa? W jaki sposób? - Csaros


Gdy przytrzymywało się prawy przycisk myszki na obrazku Bohatera, podczas obierania Zamków, przed odpaleniem mapy, przy generowaniu Random Map, dawało to zwykle szczegółowy wgląd: jaki ten Bohater ma armię, staty, zdolności, itp. Teraz po patchu 1.3.1, prawy przycisk na bohaterze tylko wyświetla mi informacje jaką bohater ma specjalność. Jeśli dobrze kojarzę, to tę opcję z większymi szczegółami wprowadził pierwotnie HD mod. Gdy zrobiłem czystą instalację dla 1.3.1, i nacisnąłem 'Update' na Launcherze HD moda, to zupdatował się do jakieś, niby dzisiejszej (21.10.2024) wersji 5.5 R9 ze zmianami:

[ ] Library patcher_x86.dll updated to version 4.18 (bug fixed)

[-] HotA 1.7.1: fixed bug with bank in factory.

[ ] HotA: Some changes, fixes, optimizations in the online lobby.

[ ] Some changes, fixes, optimizations.

[!] SoD: HoMM3 HD libraries are now built with new development tools. Incompatibility with plugins that modify these libraries is possible. If you find an incompatibility with such a plugin, contact its author.

[!] WoG/ERA HoMM3 HD libraries are now built with new development tools. Incompatibility with mods/plugins that modify these libraries is possible.

Dlatego też myślałem, że może HD mod jakoś zdołał wyjść nowy czasowo tuż po twoim updacie do 1.3.1 i wyszły jakieś nieścisłości.

Oprócz tego, gdy parę razy wyłączyłem i ponownie odpaliłem H3 od nowa, po czym wystartowałem nową grę na nowej mapie, ustawienia jak zmiany do ''Lizard Warriorów'', czy ''Manticore Lair'' przestały funkcjonować, zwyczajnie staty/koszty przywróciły się do standard Hota - pomimo, że te zedytowane przez ciebie pliki były nadal na swoich odpowiednich miejscach w folderze H3. 

'''Ale ogólnie, zrobiłem teraz jeszcze raz ''kolejną'' świeżą instalację i szczegółowe statystki pod prawym przyciskiem myszki wróciły, i Pumpkin Patch nadal działa jak powinien po restarcie H3, więc może ta poprzednia instalacja się u mnie coś zchraniła. Albo też to, że poprzednio raz odpaliłem grę, zanim dodałem te brakujące pliki do folderu ''Data'', i to mogło już coś uszkodzić, zanim je później dodałem. Jakby coś znowu zaczęło się psuć, to dam znać.''' 

- Eldrin