Editing Talk:Heroes from other games

I'm all for tables, but this one looks horribly messy compared to the simple list we had before. The portraits are already on the heroes' pages now - I think I prefer the previous list unless we can tidy this up. [[File:Hero Cosmos small.gif|link=user:phasma|→ Phasma]] 23:31, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
* Any better? I think it is nice to have all the pics on one page if possible (as well as on the hero pages) --[[User:Legate|Legate]] ([[User talk:Legate|talk]]) 13:11, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
** So much better! It's clean and concise, well done! [[File:Hero Cosmos small.gif|link=user:phasma|→ Phasma]] 13:35, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
* Other ideas:
** Add "|frame" to the picture descriptions to always show the caption.
** Change images to something like this: <pre><gallery heights=64px mode=packed-hover>Image:Hero Lord Haart (Heroes II).png|[[Knight]]</gallery></pre>
 <gallery heights=64px mode=packed-hover>Image:Hero Lord Haart (Heroes II).png|[[Knight]]</gallery>

==Portraits==
* The 58x64 are bad quality, personally I would change them to 101x93 what do you guys think?
** They are not bad quality as they are taken directly from the game's files and downscaled without aliasing to preserve their original style; in their original size they would not nicely fit in with the rest of the pages and templates without becoming blurred when resized and losing the homogeneous design of the template/page [[File:Hero Cosmos small.gif|link=user:phasma|→ Phasma]] 12:48, 21 March 2024 (UTC)

==Maximus==
I'm not sure if Maximus should be in the table as it seems that like with Kastore there is two (one from Enroth and one from Terra) of them: https://mightandmagic.fandom.com/wiki/Maximus_(Enroth)
: <s>This Maximus is the same one - his design is the same despite the difference in art styles.</s> Similarly, Balfour is a reference to Heroes IV where you play as Tawni Balfour, who is this Balfour's (adopted) daughter (Tevye, a HOTA crew member, confirmed this). [[File:Hero Cosmos small.png|link=user:phasma|→ Phasma]] 23:52, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
: Tevye has since confirmed: "To clear things up, we are aware that Maximus of Enroth from H1 and H2 and Maximus of Terra from MM7 are not the same person; Maximus from All In is the '''latter''', but he is similar enough to the former in appearance, so we decided to incorporate some features from both in our portrait, for better in-HoMM coherence." – so the person is not the same, you are correct, and they merged the styles of both into Maximus (Terra)'s new appearance! [[File:Hero Cosmos small.png|link=user:phasma|→ Phasma]] 03:25, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

==Other Games==
Now that the page is called Heroes from other games it seems we should include the heroes who appear in Heroes 4 (and in M&M I-IX if there are any). This However will make the list very long. These are all the heroes we would have to include, assuming I didn't miss any:

{{homm4}}
*Haven:
**Adelaide, Caitlin, Christian, Ingham, Mirlanda, Orrin, Rion, Sanya, Sir Mullich, Sorsha, Tyris, Verdish
*Preserve:
**Aeris, Coronius, Elleshar, '''Gem''', Ignatius, Ivor, Jenova, Kyrre, Labetha, Melodia, Mephala, Oris, Ryland
*Academy:
**Aenain, Aine, Astral, Brissa, Cyra, Daremyth, Fafner, Grindan, Iona, Malcom, Neela, Piquedram, Rissa, Solymr, Theodorus, Ufretin
*Asylum:
**Ajit, Dace, Darkstorm, Gretchin, Gruezak, Jeddite, Lorelei, Octavia, Sephinroth, Xyron
*Necropolis:
**Aislinn, Ash, Ayden, Calh, Charna, Fiona, Moander, '''Sandro''', Straker, Tamika, Vidomina
*Stronghold:
**Bron, '''Crag Hack''', Krellion, Shiva, Tazar, '''Yog'''

=== Discussion ===
* Interesting - I didn't know there were so many reused in H4 (i.e. heroes that survived the Reckoning). For the M&M games, it should only be mm6-8 as those are the only ones on Enroth, but no guarantees. Based on the lore I have seen, I believe Catherine/Roland should appear in mm8. --[[User:Legate|Legate]] ([[User talk:Legate|talk]])

* There's also the matter of Heroes II for Game Boy Color, which despite the name is not a port of the main Heroes II game. It re-uses a lot of Heroes III graphics (heavily compressed) including [https://www.mobygames.com/game/9888/heroes-of-might-and-magic-ii/screenshots/gameboy-color/536186/ dozens of heroes with their according portraits]. But then, I don't know if that game has anything resembling canonicity, let alone whether it's relevant for this page as it's currently used. [[User:1760s|1760s]] ([[User talk:1760s|talk]]) 18:21, 9 January 2025 (UTC)

* Perhaps we can have a separate table for Heroes IV heroes, running alongside this main one? There's very little overlap so I think it may be better to have it separate, so there aren't a bunch of single entries amongst the rest of the heroes. [[File:Hero Cosmos small.png|link=user:phasma|→ Phasma]] 19:38, 9 January 2025 (UTC)