Editing Talk:List of campaign maps (HotA)

==Nice work!==
This looks great! Thank you Legate! –[[user_talk:imahero|imahero]] 05:00, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

== Victory Conditions Need To Verify ==

The victory conditions of campaign maps in RoE, AB, SoD and HotA (before 1.7.0) are correct now, after I edited them. However, I am not able to download HotA 1.7.0 and ''Heroes Chronicles'' (because these websites were banned in Chinese Mainland)  to verify the victory conditions '''in game''' (if you open the maps in the map editor, the victory conditions are not right). I hope someone can help me verify these victory conditions, please. Thank you for your support! --[[User:Sanust|Sanust]] ([[User talk:Sanust|talk]]) 06:16, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
* I also found that HotA Map Editor and the HotA Crew are also not able to set some special victory conditions, for example, ''Acquire Artifact'', ''Build a Grail Structure'' or ''Transport Artifact''. These condition could set in the map editor and in campaign maps in RoE, AB or SoD, but it always has an extra condition - ''or Defeat All Enemies''. It means that our HotA Map Editor requires an update. However, Neither NWC nor HotA Crew can set this victory condition - ''Defeat Hero'', without ''Defeat All Enemies''.
* I am very surprised you found so many errors. I went through all these quite thoroughly not too long ago.  What method did you use to check these? Next time I am at my home computer I will write up how I checked them as well. I wonder if there is a difference between localized versions of the game? --[[User:Legate|Legate]] ([[User talk:Legate|talk]]) 13:55, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
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 * I also found that HotA Map Editor and the HotA Crew are also not able to set some special victory conditions, for example, ''Acquire Artifact'', ''Build a Grail Structure'' or ''Transport Artifact''. These condition could set in the map editor and in campaign maps in RoE, AB or SoD, but it always has an extra condition - ''or Defeat All Enemies''. It means that our HotA Map Editor requires an update. However, Neither NWC nor HotA Crew can set this victory condition - ''Defeat Hero'', without ''Defeat All Enemies''.
 * I am very surprised you found so many errors. I went through all these quite thoroughly not too long ago.  What method did you use to check these? Next time I am at my home computer I will write up how I checked them as well. I wonder if there is a difference between localized versions of the game? --[[User:Legate|Legate]] ([[User talk:Legate|talk]]) 13:55, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
-* I just run the game and played the campaign in English Complete version. I used cheat ''nwcredpill'' to win the game. Every time I saved, I could see the victory conditions. Then I checked the info and compared with wiki. If wiki's content was incorrect, I edited it. Don't use Map Editor, the victory conditions which shown in it are usually wrong. --[[User:Sanust|Sanust]] ([[User talk:Sanust|talk]]) 00:25, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
-* Are the json files accurate: [https://fastupload.io/en/1FLK21R6fyDmob8/file fastupload.io/en/1FLK21R6fyDmob8/file]? Are you able to download from there Sanust? –[[user_talk:imahero|imahero]] 01:13, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
-** I could download it, but I can hardly read it. I think they are not accurate.
-***In the file ''campaigns/ab/ab/D-Maker of Sorror.json'', '''"victoryCondition":{"allowNormalVictory":true,"artID":"sod.artifact.sword.armag","type":"ARTIFACT"}''' is incorrect. It shouldn't allow normal victory.
-*** Similarly, in file ''B- Seeking Armageddon.json'', '''"victoryCondition":{"allowNormalVictory":true,"artID":"sod.artifact.sword.all5","type":"ARTIFACT"}''' is also incorrect. It shouldn't allow normal victory too, and the scenario needs to find all the three artifacts to win, but the condition is only to find the sword.
-*** In the file ''campaigns/ab/festival'', the special victory condition ''Defeat All Monsters'' is even not included in this json file.
-** I think there are many things like those in the campaign maps. However, I am sure that only the campaigns in RoE, AB and SoD have these problems and campaigns in HotA, HC don't have these problems. The mainly problem is the extra ''also allow normal victory'' condition. Others are the three special maps (Defeat All Monsters and Surrive Until Time Expires) and map ''Seeking Armageddon'' (3 artifacts). --[[User:Sanust|Sanust]] ([[User talk:Sanust|talk]]) 03:41, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
-** Interesting. I used one of the tools to extract the scenario files, then viewed them by adding those scenarios to the Map folder and viewed them in-game. It sounds like there may be a bug in the campaign or scenario extraction process. --[[User:Legate|Legate]] ([[User talk:Legate|talk]]) 13:59, 2 February 2024 (UTC)