Talk:AI Behavior - Revision history

83.140.76.239 at 10:38, 11 March 2024

2024-03-11T10:38:38Z

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	==AI grail behavior==		== AI grail behavior ==
	I~~'ve~~ been testing the ai behavior in custom maps. And I was able to confirm that you can lose when the ai delivers the grail as part of the build the grail victory. But it was kinda hard to make happen. I had to literally pick up the grail myself. Then reload the map as a hotseat game and set the player I just picked up the grail with as the ai. Then the ai (eventually) carried the grail home (after several turns (even though it was already right next to the town)). At that point I was given a popup telling me the ai had achieved victory and I was shown the defeat beheading scene. I'm not sure why the ~~ai wouldn't~~ seem to pick up (dig for) the grail. I was pretty sure I'd seen the ai build the grail before. Maybe something was wrong with how I placed the obelisk / grail? Anyone have any ideas? [[File:Hero Stormblessed small.gif\|→ima\|link=user:imahero]] 16:04, 11 May 2021 (UTC)		I have been testing the AI behavior in custom maps. And I was able to confirm that you can lose when the AI delivers the grail as part of the build the grail victory. But it was kinda hard to make happen. I had to literally pick up the grail myself. Then reload the map as a hotseat game and set the player I just picked up the grail with as the AI. Then the AI (eventually) carried the grail home (after several turns (even though it was already right next to the town)). At that point I was given a popup telling me the AI had achieved victory and I was shown the defeat beheading scene. I am not sure why the AI would not seem to pick up (dig for) the grail. I was pretty sure I had seen the AI build the grail before. Maybe something was wrong with how I placed the obelisk / grail? Anyone have any ideas? [[File:Hero Stormblessed small.gif\|→ima\|link=user:imahero]] 16:04, 11 May 2021 (UTC)

	:Short version - H3 AI is sometimes so damn stupid, it beggars belief. This might be just another egregious case. Perhaps its priorities are as skewed up as those listed on the page - I'm not good at German so just skimmed the file. About the obelisk - maybe the number of found obelisks was too low for AI to start searching? Or the total number of obelisks somehow broke the AI rules about when to start? Or perhaps they were placed in a way that made AI completely ignore them - I~~'ve~~ seen some places in some maps where AI never, ever goes no matter what, unless you bait it with a weak hero or use the single player save/hotseat load trick. Also look up [[Difficulty_level]] and compare the observed behavior to your chosen difficulty - on Easy AI just ignores the Grail. -[[User:Fafner\|Fafner]] ([[User talk:Fafner\|talk]]) 20:30, 11 May 2021 (UTC)		:Short version - H3 AI is sometimes so damn stupid, it beggars belief. This might be just another egregious case. Perhaps its priorities are as skewed up as those listed on the page - I am not good at German so just skimmed the file. About the obelisk - maybe the number of found obelisks was too low for AI to start searching? Or the total number of obelisks somehow broke the AI rules about when to start? Or perhaps they were placed in a way that made AI completely ignore them - I have seen some places in some maps where AI never, ever goes no matter what, unless you bait it with a weak hero or use the single player save/hotseat load trick. Also look up [[Difficulty_level]] and compare the observed behavior to your chosen difficulty - on Easy AI just ignores the Grail. -[[User:Fafner\|Fafner]] ([[User talk:Fafner\|talk]]) 20:30, 11 May 2021 (UTC)

	==The Tactician==		== The Tactician ==
	Found the original (i think it is anyway): [https://sites.google.com/site/biobobslaboratory/games/heroes-3/the-tactician sites.google.com/site/biobobslaboratory/games/heroes-3/the-tactician]		Found the original (I think it is anyway): [https://sites.google.com/site/biobobslaboratory/games/heroes-3/the-tactician sites.google.com/site/biobobslaboratory/games/heroes-3/the-tactician]

Fafner at 20:30, 11 May 2021

2021-05-11T20:30:49Z

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	==AI grail behavior==		==AI grail behavior==
	I've been testing the ai behavior in custom maps. And I was able to confirm that you can lose when the ai delivers the grail as part of the build the grail victory. But it was kinda hard to make happen. I had to literally pick up the grail myself. Then reload the map as a hotseat game and set the player I just picked up the grail with as the ai. Then the ai (eventually) carried the grail home (after several turns (even though it was already right next to the town)). At that point I was given a popup telling me the ai had achieved victory and I was shown the defeat beheading scene. I'm not sure why the ai wouldn't seem to pick up (dig for) the grail. I was pretty sure I'd seen the ai build the grail before. Maybe something was wrong with how I placed the obelisk / grail? Anyone have any ideas? [[File:Hero Stormblessed small.gif\|→ima\|link=user:imahero]] 16:04, 11 May 2021 (UTC)		I've been testing the ai behavior in custom maps. And I was able to confirm that you can lose when the ai delivers the grail as part of the build the grail victory. But it was kinda hard to make happen. I had to literally pick up the grail myself. Then reload the map as a hotseat game and set the player I just picked up the grail with as the ai. Then the ai (eventually) carried the grail home (after several turns (even though it was already right next to the town)). At that point I was given a popup telling me the ai had achieved victory and I was shown the defeat beheading scene. I'm not sure why the ai wouldn't seem to pick up (dig for) the grail. I was pretty sure I'd seen the ai build the grail before. Maybe something was wrong with how I placed the obelisk / grail? Anyone have any ideas? [[File:Hero Stormblessed small.gif\|→ima\|link=user:imahero]] 16:04, 11 May 2021 (UTC)

			:Short version - H3 AI is sometimes so damn stupid, it beggars belief. This might be just another egregious case. Perhaps its priorities are as skewed up as those listed on the page - I'm not good at German so just skimmed the file. About the obelisk - maybe the number of found obelisks was too low for AI to start searching? Or the total number of obelisks somehow broke the AI rules about when to start? Or perhaps they were placed in a way that made AI completely ignore them - I've seen some places in some maps where AI never, ever goes no matter what, unless you bait it with a weak hero or use the single player save/hotseat load trick. Also look up [[Difficulty_level]] and compare the observed behavior to your chosen difficulty - on Easy AI just ignores the Grail. -[[User:Fafner\|Fafner]] ([[User talk:Fafner\|talk]]) 20:30, 11 May 2021 (UTC)

	==The Tactician==		==The Tactician==
	Found the original (i think it is anyway): [https://sites.google.com/site/biobobslaboratory/games/heroes-3/the-tactician sites.google.com/site/biobobslaboratory/games/heroes-3/the-tactician]		Found the original (i think it is anyway): [https://sites.google.com/site/biobobslaboratory/games/heroes-3/the-tactician sites.google.com/site/biobobslaboratory/games/heroes-3/the-tactician]

Imahero at 16:14, 11 May 2021

2021-05-11T16:14:58Z

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	==AI grail behavior==		==AI grail behavior==
	I've been testing the ai behavior in custom maps. And I was able to confirm that you can lose when the ai delivers the grail as part of the build the grail victory. But it was kinda hard to make happen. I had to literally pick up the grail myself. Then reload the map as a hotseat game and set the player I just picked up the grail with as the ai. Then the ai (eventually) carried the grail home (after several turns (even though it was already right next to the town)). At that point I was given a popup telling me the ai had achieved victory and I was shown the defeat beheading scene. I'm not sure why the ai wouldn't seem to pick up (dig for) the grail. I was pretty sure I'd seen the ai build the grail before. Maybe something was wrong with how I placed the obelisk / grail? Anyone have any ideas? [[File:Hero Stormblessed small.gif\|→ima\|link=user:imahero]] 16:04, 11 May 2021 (UTC)		I've been testing the ai behavior in custom maps. And I was able to confirm that you can lose when the ai delivers the grail as part of the build the grail victory. But it was kinda hard to make happen. I had to literally pick up the grail myself. Then reload the map as a hotseat game and set the player I just picked up the grail with as the ai. Then the ai (eventually) carried the grail home (after several turns (even though it was already right next to the town)). At that point I was given a popup telling me the ai had achieved victory and I was shown the defeat beheading scene. I'm not sure why the ai wouldn't seem to pick up (dig for) the grail. I was pretty sure I'd seen the ai build the grail before. Maybe something was wrong with how I placed the obelisk / grail? Anyone have any ideas? [[File:Hero Stormblessed small.gif\|→ima\|link=user:imahero]] 16:04, 11 May 2021 (UTC)

			==The Tactician==
			Found the original (i think it is anyway): [https://sites.google.com/site/biobobslaboratory/games/heroes-3/the-tactician sites.google.com/site/biobobslaboratory/games/heroes-3/the-tactician]

Imahero at 16:04, 11 May 2021

2021-05-11T16:04:14Z

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		==AI grail behavior==
		I've been testing the ai behavior in custom maps. And I was able to confirm that you can lose when the ai delivers the grail as part of the build the grail victory. But it was kinda hard to make happen. I had to literally pick up the grail myself. Then reload the map as a hotseat game and set the player I just picked up the grail with as the ai. Then the ai (eventually) carried the grail home (after several turns (even though it was already right next to the town)). At that point I was given a popup telling me the ai had achieved victory and I was shown the defeat beheading scene. I'm not sure why the ai wouldn't seem to pick up (dig for) the grail. I was pretty sure I'd seen the ai build the grail before. Maybe something was wrong with how I placed the obelisk / grail? Anyone have any ideas? [[File:Hero Stormblessed small.gif\|→ima\|link=user:imahero]] 16:04, 11 May 2021 (UTC)

Imahero: links to empty bin? i guess it was deleted?

2021-05-11T15:55:18Z

links to empty bin? i guess it was deleted?

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	~~Have you read the tactician document? [https://filebin.net/y2xp3cb0wtnlxabc filebin.net/y2xp3cb0wtnlxabc]~~

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2021-04-30T02:48:56Z

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