Wandering creature - Revision history

77.57.128.162: Specify that wandering creatures can only be configured to join only for money in Hota mod.

2026-01-08T02:26:59Z

Specify that wandering creatures can only be configured to join only for money in Hota mod.

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	* If the player refuses negotiation, the creatures will try to flee. But if C=M (see above; this happens when player does not have significant strength advantage and is mostly carried by Diplomacy or sympathy), they will decide to fight.		* If the player refuses negotiation, the creatures will try to flee. But if C=M (see above; this happens when player does not have significant strength advantage and is mostly carried by Diplomacy or sympathy), they will decide to fight.
	* The creatures can be set to never flee (negotiation can still happen if mood is low).		* The creatures can be set to never flee (negotiation can still happen if mood is low).
	* The creatures can be set to join only for money.		* {{wh-}}The creatures can be set to join only for money.
	* {{wh-}}When joining for money, the creatures can be set such that only part of them joins, but the player still pays the full price.		* {{wh-}}When joining for money, the creatures can be set such that only part of them joins, but the player still pays the full price.

Turnam: note that they don't actually wander

2025-10-14T05:24:31Z

note that they don't actually wander

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	Unlike enemy heroes, your hero initiates a fight whenever they move at the square next to the creature. In case of multiple creatures at the nearby squares, only one combat occurs. The priority is top-to-down, left-to-right (see image). Using a monolith or similar adventure map object does not trigger the combat (use Space to teleport back).		Unlike enemy heroes, your hero initiates a fight whenever they move at the square next to the creature. In case of multiple creatures at the nearby squares, only one combat occurs. The priority is top-to-down, left-to-right (see image). Using a monolith or similar adventure map object does not trigger the combat (use Space to teleport back).

			The term "wandering monster" comes from tabletop jargon, where tables of random encounters can be used to make the travels of player characters more eventful. Despite the name, wandering monsters in {{homm3}} never move from their tile.

	== Spawning of wandering creatures ==		== Spawning of wandering creatures ==

Turnam: /* External links */

2025-09-14T09:41:50Z

External links

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	=== External links ===		=== External links ===
	* [http://heroescommunity.com/viewthread.php3?TID=28341 Thread: Diplomacy internals on Heroes Community]]		* [http://heroescommunity.com/viewthread.php3?TID=28341 Thread: Diplomacy internals on Heroes Community]

	[[Category: Terms]]		[[Category: Terms]]
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Turnam: /* Actual encounter outcome */

2025-09-14T09:40:41Z

Actual encounter outcome

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	* The creatures can be set to never flee (negotiation can still happen if mood is low).		* The creatures can be set to never flee (negotiation can still happen if mood is low).
	* The creatures can be set to join only for money.		* The creatures can be set to join only for money.
	{~~hota~~} * When joining for money, the creatures can be set such that only part of them joins, but the player still pays the full price.		* {{wh-}}When joining for money, the creatures can be set such that only part of them joins, but the player still pays the full price.

	=== External links ===		=== External links ===

FerynaCZ: Added neutral creature outcomes based on player decisions.

2025-09-14T06:33:08Z

Added neutral creature outcomes based on player decisions.

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	:* A is the hero's [[Primary skills\|attack skill]] value		:* A is the hero's [[Primary skills\|attack skill]] value
	:* D is the hero's [[Primary skills\|defense skill]] value		:* D is the hero's [[Primary skills\|defense skill]] value

			== Actual encounter outcome ==
			The aforementioned equations only determine the default outcome. Based on the player's decisions and map editor's settings, it can proceed in different ways:

			* If the creatures decide to flee, the player can always force the fight.
			* If the player refuses negotiation, the creatures will try to flee. But if C=M (see above; this happens when player does not have significant strength advantage and is mostly carried by Diplomacy or sympathy), they will decide to fight.
			* The creatures can be set to never flee (negotiation can still happen if mood is low).
			* The creatures can be set to join only for money.
			{hota} * When joining for money, the creatures can be set such that only part of them joins, but the player still pays the full price.

	=== External links ===		=== External links ===

FerynaCZ: /* Spawning of wandering creatures */

2025-01-01T10:13:56Z

Spawning of wandering creatures

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	== Spawning of wandering creatures ==		== Spawning of wandering creatures ==

	The number of troops in a wandering creature encounter can be set between 1–4000 in {{roe}} or 1-9999 in {{ab}}. If an exact number is not defined when making a map, the amount is randomly generated between 1–99, depending on the ~~level~~ of the creatures. The random map generator tries to match the [[List of adventure map objects\|RMG value of adventure map objects]] with the total [[AI_value\|RMG value of troops]] in a wandering creature encounter. A single wandering creature may be 'guarding' multiple adventure map objects in this way.		The number of troops in a wandering creature encounter can be set between 1–4000 in {{roe}} or 1-9999 in {{ab}}. If an exact number is not defined when making a map, the amount is randomly generated between 1–99, depending on the type of the creatures (see the creature description for the minimum and maximum amount).

			The random map generator tries to match the [[List of adventure map objects\|RMG value of adventure map objects]] with the total [[AI_value\|RMG value of troops]] in a wandering creature encounter. A single wandering creature may be 'guarding' multiple adventure map objects in this way.

	The number of troops in a wandering army [[Growth#Other_meanings_for_growth\|grows]] by 10% on the first day of every week except week 1, but cannot exceed the limit of 4000 or 9999 creatures. Decimal values are stored by the game, but are always rounded down when a player engages a wandering creature. This means a wandering army that starts with 1 troop can grow to 2 after 8 weeks (on Month 3, Week 1, Day 1), or to the maximum of 4000 troops in 88 weeks (on Month 23, Week 1, Day 1). The exact number of weeks needed for a wandering army to exceed a given size is log<sub>1.1</sub>(S/x) rounded up, where ''S'' is the size and ''x'' is the starting number of troops.		The number of troops in a wandering army [[Growth#Other_meanings_for_growth\|grows]] by 10% on the first day of every week except week 1, but cannot exceed the limit of 4000 or 9999 creatures. Decimal values are stored by the game, but are always rounded down when a player engages a wandering creature. This means a wandering army that starts with 1 troop can grow to 2 after 8 weeks (on Month 3, Week 1, Day 1), or to the maximum of 4000 troops in 88 weeks (on Month 23, Week 1, Day 1). The exact number of weeks needed for a wandering army to exceed a given size is log<sub>1.1</sub>(S/x) rounded up, where ''S'' is the size and ''x'' is the starting number of troops.

FerynaCZ: Fixed encounter priority description + added teleport rule

2025-01-01T10:09:49Z

Fixed encounter priority description + added teleport rule

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	'''Wandering creatures''' (or sometimes '''monsters''' or '''neutral armies/stacks''') is a term for the [[creature]]s standing on the [[Adventure Map]]. The type of the creatures can be totally random, restricted by creature level or be specifically defined by the map-maker.		'''Wandering creatures''' (or sometimes '''monsters''' or '''neutral armies/stacks''') is a term for the [[creature]]s standing on the [[Adventure Map]]. The type of the creatures can be totally random, restricted by creature level or be specifically defined by the map-maker.
	The creatures are not truly wandering, they always stay at the same place and mostly serve as a guard of a passage or an object.		The creatures are not truly wandering, they always stay at the same place and mostly serve as a guard of a passage or an object.
	Unlike enemy heroes, your hero initiates a fight whenever they move at the square next to the creature. In case of multiple creatures at the nearby squares, only one combat occurs. The priority is ~~counterclockwise~~, ~~starting at top~~ left.		Unlike enemy heroes, your hero initiates a fight whenever they move at the square next to the creature. In case of multiple creatures at the nearby squares, only one combat occurs. The priority is top-to-down, left-to-right (see image). Using a monolith or similar adventure map object does not trigger the combat (use Space to teleport back).


	== Spawning of wandering creatures ==		== Spawning of wandering creatures ==

Ibraesil: /* The first check */ the Army Strength page explains what that term means, so I guess explaining it poorly here is probably unnecessary.

2024-12-30T03:29:18Z

The first check: the Army Strength page explains what that term means, so I guess explaining it poorly here is probably unnecessary.

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	'''Mood''' is a random number determined at the start of a game from a range set by the mapmaker. Usually this is between 1-10, but wandering creatures generated by the [[random map]] generator have a mood between 4-10. Wandering creatures generated by a special month always have mood between 1-10.		'''Mood''' is a random number determined at the start of a game from a range set by the mapmaker. Usually this is between 1-10, but wandering creatures generated by the [[random map]] generator have a mood between 4-10. Wandering creatures generated by a special month always have mood between 1-10.

	'''Charisma''' is based loosely on the ratio of army strengths plus two diplomatic factors. Army strength is the total [[AI value]] of all creatures in an army, multiplied by a factor based on the leading hero's Attack and Defense skills (wandering creatures, having no hero, do not get this extra factor).		'''Charisma''' is based loosely on the ratio of [[AI_value#Army_Strength\|army strengths]] plus two diplomatic factors. Base charisma in brief (see below for full details):

	Base charisma in brief (see below for full details):

	* A player army of a third or less the strength of the wandering creature gives a base charisma of -3.		* A player army of a third or less the strength of the wandering creature gives a base charisma of -3.

Ibraesil: /* The second check */ spelling, grammar

2024-12-30T03:23:56Z

The second check: spelling, grammar

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	===== The second check =====		===== The second check =====

	Having determined that the hero's charisma is greater than or equal to the wandering creature's mood (and therefore the wandering creature doesn't want to fight), the game then compares the diplomatic factors (see above) to the creature's mood to determine ~~which~~ whether they try to join the hero or simply run away. If the ~~dimplomatic~~ factors are equal to (or greater than) mood, the wandering creature will try to '''join''', failing by 1 or 2 means the wandering creature will try to '''negotiate''', and failing by more than 2 means they will '''flee'''.		Having determined that the hero's charisma is greater than or equal to the wandering creature's mood (and therefore the wandering creature doesn't want to fight), the game then compares the diplomatic factors (see above) to the creature's mood to determine whether they try to join the hero or simply run away. If the diplomatic factors are equal to (or greater than) mood, the wandering creature will try to '''join''', failing by 1 or 2 means the wandering creature will try to '''negotiate''', and failing by more than 2 means they will '''flee'''.

	=== Full Calculation and factors ===		=== Full Calculation and factors ===

Ibraesil: /* Join, Negotiate or Flee */ technically no new content, but presenting the maths & tables in an accessible way. Any extra eyes on this will be greatly appreciated.

2024-12-30T03:20:38Z

Join, Negotiate or Flee: technically no new content, but presenting the maths & tables in an accessible way. Any extra eyes on this will be greatly appreciated.

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 * '''Flee''': The wandering creatures are willing to disappear without fighting the combat.
-=== Calculation and factors ===
+There are two checks which determine a wandering creature's behaviour.  The first determines whether the wandering creature fights the hero or takes some other action, and the second determines what that action is.
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 ! colspan=2 | Mood values (M)