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* Split this into 3 large tables: 1) Standard Heroes 2) Heroes available in Map Editor 3) Campaign Only Heroes.
* Split this into 3 large tables: 1) Standard Heroes 2) Heroes available in Map Editor 3) Campaign Only Heroes.
** I saw you added a 4th table "Other Campaign Heroes". How does this differ from "Campaign Only Heroes?" --[[User:Legate|Legate]] ([[User talk:Legate|talk]]) 18:22, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
** I saw you added a 4th table "Other Campaign Heroes". How does this differ from "Campaign Only Heroes?" --[[User:Legate|Legate]] ([[User talk:Legate|talk]]) 18:22, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
*** I think it is just whether they have a unique portrait or not?
**** Precisely, since those with a unique portrait are the first "instance" of that hero and I think it should define them as a character. Both Complete Edition and HotA have these (General Kendal & Boyd being examples) and they also have many many instances of portraits being reused, which I think would clutter the first table of unique campaign heroes. [[File:Hero Cosmos small.gif|link=user:phasma|→ Phasma]] 19:53, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
**** I agree. I didn't realize there were so many of the 2nd kind of hero! --[[User:Legate|Legate]] ([[User talk:Legate|talk]]) 20:26, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
**** I am thankful we're only doing the second type of hero if the player can control them/is allies with them... we would have an endless supply of custom enemy heroes otherwise, which I don't think ANYONE wants to know about, let alone sift through 100+ maps to catalogue! [[File:Hero Cosmos small.gif|link=user:phasma|→ Phasma]] 20:31, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
**** ...I did it. I made the list. See [[Template talk:Campaign hero table]]. I'll probably put these heroes on their own page or something idk. I think we should put them all here, but maybe minimize the tables by default? --[[User:Legate|Legate]] ([[User talk:Legate|talk]]) 20:28, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
* Add a source column to show where the hero originated (See [[Template:Campaign hero table]])
* Add a source column to show where the hero originated (See [[Template:Campaign hero table]])
** I was just about to do this but it seems you're already working on it :) I'll hold off on editing this for now, if you're doing it! [[File:Hero Cosmos small.gif|link=user:phasma|→ Phasma]] 16:40, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
** I was just about to do this but it seems you're already working on it :) I'll hold off on editing this for now, if you're doing it! [[File:Hero Cosmos small.gif|link=user:phasma|→ Phasma]] 16:40, 8 February 2024 (UTC)


== To Add ==
== To Do ==
* Heroes added for Hota v1.7.0
* <s>Heroes added for Hota v1.7.0</s>
* Missing HC heroes (e.g. various flavors of [[Tarnum]], whoever else appears in the campaigns)
* <s>Add ALL campaign heroes. See [[Template talk:Campaign hero table]].</s>
* <s>Figure out what to do about OG Catherine. Her portrait exists nowhere as far as I know.</s>
* <s>Fill in missing text for biographies.</s>
* <s>Add specialty picture parameter (like in the Hero template)</s>

Latest revision as of 20:40, 9 May 2024

Organization[edit | hide | hide all]

Trying to decide how best to tackle this page. --Legate (talk) 16:28, 8 February 2024 (UTC) My current thoughts:

  • Split this into 3 large tables: 1) Standard Heroes 2) Heroes available in Map Editor 3) Campaign Only Heroes.
    • I saw you added a 4th table "Other Campaign Heroes". How does this differ from "Campaign Only Heroes?" --Legate (talk) 18:22, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
      • I think it is just whether they have a unique portrait or not?
        • Precisely, since those with a unique portrait are the first "instance" of that hero and I think it should define them as a character. Both Complete Edition and HotA have these (General Kendal & Boyd being examples) and they also have many many instances of portraits being reused, which I think would clutter the first table of unique campaign heroes. → Phasma 19:53, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
        • I agree. I didn't realize there were so many of the 2nd kind of hero! --Legate (talk) 20:26, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
        • I am thankful we're only doing the second type of hero if the player can control them/is allies with them... we would have an endless supply of custom enemy heroes otherwise, which I don't think ANYONE wants to know about, let alone sift through 100+ maps to catalogue! → Phasma 20:31, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
        • ...I did it. I made the list. See Template talk:Campaign hero table. I'll probably put these heroes on their own page or something idk. I think we should put them all here, but maybe minimize the tables by default? --Legate (talk) 20:28, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
  • Add a source column to show where the hero originated (See Template:Campaign hero table)
    • I was just about to do this but it seems you're already working on it :) I'll hold off on editing this for now, if you're doing it! → Phasma 16:40, 8 February 2024 (UTC)

To Do[edit | hide]

  • Heroes added for Hota v1.7.0
  • Add ALL campaign heroes. See Template talk:Campaign hero table.
  • Figure out what to do about OG Catherine. Her portrait exists nowhere as far as I know.
  • Fill in missing text for biographies.
  • Add specialty picture parameter (like in the Hero template)