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== Hypnotize affects the Armageddon Immunity== | |||
Actually only the units who you CONTROL are immune to Armageddon when you have the artifact, if any of your units get hypnotized, they'll become vunerable to Armageddon, and also if you Hypnotize any enemy unit, that unit will gain immunity to the spell (temporalily tho). | |||
== obtained from dragon utopia == | |||
As it is not mentioned anywhere, I wanted to say that I just got Armageddon's Blade from dragon utopia in Vial of Blood map. I was not aware that it is possible to get the artifict like that so I wanted to share it. It is that it is not possible to decompose it to the three artificats. | As it is not mentioned anywhere, I wanted to say that I just got Armageddon's Blade from dragon utopia in Vial of Blood map. I was not aware that it is possible to get the artifict like that so I wanted to share it. It is that it is not possible to decompose it to the three artificats. | ||
:Armageddon's Blade is treated as normal relic artifact if enabled in custom maps. Therefore it is perhaps not a necessity to mention availability separately. The composition is only in the Armageddon's Blade campaign. –[[User:Kapteeni Ruoska|Kapteeni Ruoska]] ([[User talk:Kapteeni Ruoska|talk]]) 08:28, 5 January 2017 (CET) | |||
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Q: On that note, a question about Armageddon’s Blade. From what is revealed about it both in the original version of the expansion’s story (a fragment of that is the cinematic intro) and the final one, this artifact is an Ancient weapon, either created by the Ancients or stored by them underground. One Armageddon’s Blade is created by Kreegans, forged from demonic relics by Kazandar. The text about another such blade being found in an Ancient vault still remains in the game (and this weapon is already fabled in the world before being constructed by Kazandar). Can you tell us something more about Armageddon’s Blade? Was the one that is deep underground ever found? | |||
A: If I understand this correctly, ‘context’ appears to have led to a continuity issue. | |||
There are Armageddon’s Blade references in the intro movie, the origin campaign, and the single player maps. For the campaign, Armageddon’s Blade was supposed to be a ‘recipe’. A terrible weapon from before the Silence. Anyone could create it with the required parts. The obvious analogy is a nuclear bomb. Anyone can make a nuclear bomb if they have the resources and knowledge. In the case of the campaign, Xeron has the resources and Kazandar has the knowledge. | |||
In the case of the intro cinematic and single player maps, Armageddon’s Blade is presented as a singular artifact. When an artifact is collected by a Hero, there is a window displaying a paragraph of flavor text. For Armageddon’s Blade, the text is... | |||
''“Deep beneath the earth, you find a vault of the Ancients from before the Silence. Inside you find a sealed casket, deeply etched with dire warnings. Ignoring them, you break the seal. Inside, you find Armageddon's Blade.”'' | |||
How would I resolve all of this? I would say, Armageddon’s Blade was built by Kazandar for Xeron to use in the war between Lucifer and Catherine. This does not exclude other constructions of the same recipe from existing elsewhere. Regarding deep lore, unless there is evidence to the contrary, I would say Armageddon’s Blade was an angelic weapon (note the golden bird on the hilt), forged from demonic weapons, used primarily to exterminate the Kreegans. Knowing this, the Kreegans attempted use of the blade in the campaign is rather ironic. | |||
Greg Fulton, the lead designer of HoMM3 (RoE and AB) | |||
Tavern of Might and Magic [https://vk.com/@tavern_homam-intervu-s-nwc-20-heroes-3-greg-fulton] Interview (2019.02.28) | |||
[https://www.fanstratics.com/fstnewsletter03 Fanstratics Newsletter #3 (November 2020)] |
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Hypnotize affects the Armageddon Immunity[edit | hide | hide all]
Actually only the units who you CONTROL are immune to Armageddon when you have the artifact, if any of your units get hypnotized, they'll become vunerable to Armageddon, and also if you Hypnotize any enemy unit, that unit will gain immunity to the spell (temporalily tho).
obtained from dragon utopia[edit | hide]
As it is not mentioned anywhere, I wanted to say that I just got Armageddon's Blade from dragon utopia in Vial of Blood map. I was not aware that it is possible to get the artifict like that so I wanted to share it. It is that it is not possible to decompose it to the three artificats.
- Armageddon's Blade is treated as normal relic artifact if enabled in custom maps. Therefore it is perhaps not a necessity to mention availability separately. The composition is only in the Armageddon's Blade campaign. –Kapteeni Ruoska (talk) 08:28, 5 January 2017 (CET)
...[edit | hide]
Q: On that note, a question about Armageddon’s Blade. From what is revealed about it both in the original version of the expansion’s story (a fragment of that is the cinematic intro) and the final one, this artifact is an Ancient weapon, either created by the Ancients or stored by them underground. One Armageddon’s Blade is created by Kreegans, forged from demonic relics by Kazandar. The text about another such blade being found in an Ancient vault still remains in the game (and this weapon is already fabled in the world before being constructed by Kazandar). Can you tell us something more about Armageddon’s Blade? Was the one that is deep underground ever found?
A: If I understand this correctly, ‘context’ appears to have led to a continuity issue. There are Armageddon’s Blade references in the intro movie, the origin campaign, and the single player maps. For the campaign, Armageddon’s Blade was supposed to be a ‘recipe’. A terrible weapon from before the Silence. Anyone could create it with the required parts. The obvious analogy is a nuclear bomb. Anyone can make a nuclear bomb if they have the resources and knowledge. In the case of the campaign, Xeron has the resources and Kazandar has the knowledge. In the case of the intro cinematic and single player maps, Armageddon’s Blade is presented as a singular artifact. When an artifact is collected by a Hero, there is a window displaying a paragraph of flavor text. For Armageddon’s Blade, the text is...
“Deep beneath the earth, you find a vault of the Ancients from before the Silence. Inside you find a sealed casket, deeply etched with dire warnings. Ignoring them, you break the seal. Inside, you find Armageddon's Blade.”
How would I resolve all of this? I would say, Armageddon’s Blade was built by Kazandar for Xeron to use in the war between Lucifer and Catherine. This does not exclude other constructions of the same recipe from existing elsewhere. Regarding deep lore, unless there is evidence to the contrary, I would say Armageddon’s Blade was an angelic weapon (note the golden bird on the hilt), forged from demonic weapons, used primarily to exterminate the Kreegans. Knowing this, the Kreegans attempted use of the blade in the campaign is rather ironic.
Greg Fulton, the lead designer of HoMM3 (RoE and AB)
Tavern of Might and Magic [1] Interview (2019.02.28)