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'''Rocs and Thunderbirds''' are level 5 creatures of [[Stronghold town]]. They are recruited from the [[Cliff Nest]].
'''Rocs and Thunderbirds''' are the level 5 creatures of [[Stronghold]]. They are recruited from the [[Cliff Nest]].


''"Rocs and thunderbirds are the only [[flying]] units available at Stronghold towns. When thunderbirds attack, there is a 20% chance thunderbolts will strike their target, delivering 10x the number of attacking thunderbirds in additional damage."{{-}}<sup>[[Restoration of Erathia Manual Page 110|RoE manual]]''</sup>
''"Rocs and thunderbirds are the only [[flying]] units available at Stronghold towns. When thunderbirds attack, there is a 20% chance thunderbolts will strike their target, delivering 10x the number of attacking thunderbirds in additional damage."{{-}}<sup>[[Restoration of Erathia Manual Page 110|RoE manual]]''</sup>
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== Lightning strike special ability ==
== Special Ability: Lightning Strike ==
Thunderbirds have special ability lightning strike, which has 20% probability to occur after the stack have attacked, including [[retaliation]]s. When the stack attacks, the lightning strike occurs before the enemy has a chance to retaliate. If successful, the lightning strike deals additional damage for the amount of ten times the number of attacking Thunderbirds. The thunderbolts have the same visual effect as the spell [[Lightning Bolt]], and the special attack is also counted as one in terms of immunities.
Thunderbirds have special ability lightning strike, which has 20% probability to occur after the stack have attacked, including [[retaliation]]s. When the stack attacks, the lightning strike occurs before the enemy has a chance to retaliate. If successful, the lightning strike deals additional damage for the amount of ten times the number of attacking Thunderbirds. The thunderbolts have the same visual effect as the spell [[Lightning Bolt]], and the special attack is also counted as one in terms of immunities and Golems' [[spell damage reduction]] (e.g. if 14 Thunderbirds attack a stack of [[Diamond Golem]]s with a lightning strike, they will do 7 damage instead of 140 because Diamond Golems have 95% spell damage resistance). Since the attack is considered to be the Lightning Bolt spell, it also deals extra damage to {{Cnu|Air Elemental|Storm Elemental|name=Air and Storm Elementals}}.


== Heroes with a specialty ==
== Heroes with a specialty ==
*{{H|Shiva|Barbarian}} has rocs as a [[Specialty#Creature_specialties|specialty]], which increases the attack and defense skills of any rocs or thunderbirds for each level attained after 5th level and gives them a [[speed]] bonus of 1.
*{{H|Shiva|Barbarian}} has rocs as a [[Specialty#Creature_specialties|specialty]], which increases the attack and defense skills of any rocs or thunderbirds for each level attained after 5th level and gives them a [[speed]] bonus of 1.
== Official Renders ==
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Roc render.gif
Thunderbird render.gif
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{{Fanopinion|
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Since they are the only flying Stronghold unit, the rocs and thunderbirds usually die in large numbers if they are to be sent to attack the enemy straight away. They should be used tactically and not draw too much damage towards themselves, even if their health stat is the third highest for a level 5. Their defense is also pretty low.
Since they are the only flying Stronghold unit, the rocs and thunderbirds usually die in large numbers if they are to be sent to attack the enemy straight away. They should be used tactically and not draw too much damage towards themselves, even if their health stat is the third highest for a level 5. Their defense is also pretty low. Try to upgrade Rocs to Thunderbirds as soon as possible, as with speed 7 Rocs are quite useless. For that reason, capturing Rocs' external dwellings is not that difficult (however, beware of first turn right, and if you cannot kill all 9 Rocs guarding the dwelling at the same time, [[Slow]] is still a good idea as the guardians may attack twice due to high morale, reaching some of your troops).


Since the lightning strike deals direct [[damage]] that is unaffected by most combat modifiers, it's most effective against heavily armored stacks, although with only a 20% chance of occurring it cannot be relied upon.
Since the lightning strike deals direct [[damage]] that is unaffected by most combat modifiers, it's most effective against heavily armored stacks, although with only a 20% chance of occurring it cannot be relied upon.
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* [[Comparison of Level 5 Creatures]]


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Latest revision as of 20:08, 24 June 2024

Stronghold creatures
Level 1
Goblin Goblin
Hobgoblin Hobgoblin
Level 2
Wolf Rider Wolf Rider
Wolf Raider Wolf Raider
Level 3
Orc Orc Orc
Orc Chieftain Orc Chieftain Orc Chieftain
Level 4
Ogre Ogre
Ogre Mage Ogre Mage
Level 5
Roc Roc
Thunderbird Thunderbird
Level 6
Cyclops Cyclops
Cyclops King Cyclops King
Level 7
Behemoth Behemoth
Ancient Behemoth Ancient Behemoth
Towns
Castle Rampart Tower
Inferno Necropolis Dungeon
Stronghold Fortress Conflux
Cove Factory
Neutral
Statistics
Roc
 Cost per troop 

600

Attack 13
Defense 11
Damage 11–15
Health 60
Speed 7
Movement Flying
Size 2
Growth 3
AI Value 1027
Thunderbird
 Cost per troop 

700

Attack 13
Defense 11
Damage 11–15
Health 60
Speed 11
Movement Flying
Size 2
Growth 3
AI Value 1106
 Special abilities:
Lightning strike
Portraits
Shadow of Death   Horn of the Abyss
Cliff Nest  

Rocs and Thunderbirds are the level 5 creatures of Stronghold. They are recruited from the Cliff Nest.

"Rocs and thunderbirds are the only flying units available at Stronghold towns. When thunderbirds attack, there is a 20% chance thunderbolts will strike their target, delivering 10x the number of attacking thunderbirds in additional damage." RoE manual

Special Ability: Lightning Strike[edit | hide | hide all]

Thunderbirds have special ability lightning strike, which has 20% probability to occur after the stack have attacked, including retaliations. When the stack attacks, the lightning strike occurs before the enemy has a chance to retaliate. If successful, the lightning strike deals additional damage for the amount of ten times the number of attacking Thunderbirds. The thunderbolts have the same visual effect as the spell Lightning Bolt, and the special attack is also counted as one in terms of immunities and Golems' spell damage reduction (e.g. if 14 Thunderbirds attack a stack of Diamond Golems with a lightning strike, they will do 7 damage instead of 140 because Diamond Golems have 95% spell damage resistance). Since the attack is considered to be the Lightning Bolt spell, it also deals extra damage to Air Elemental Storm Elemental Air and Storm Elementals.

Heroes with a specialty[edit | hide]

  • ShivaShiva Shiva the Barbarian has rocs as a specialty, which increases the attack and defense skills of any rocs or thunderbirds for each level attained after 5th level and gives them a speed bonus of 1.

Official Renders[edit | hide]

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Since they are the only flying Stronghold unit, the rocs and thunderbirds usually die in large numbers if they are to be sent to attack the enemy straight away. They should be used tactically and not draw too much damage towards themselves, even if their health stat is the third highest for a level 5. Their defense is also pretty low. Try to upgrade Rocs to Thunderbirds as soon as possible, as with speed 7 Rocs are quite useless. For that reason, capturing Rocs' external dwellings is not that difficult (however, beware of first turn right, and if you cannot kill all 9 Rocs guarding the dwelling at the same time, Slow is still a good idea as the guardians may attack twice due to high morale, reaching some of your troops).

Since the lightning strike deals direct damage that is unaffected by most combat modifiers, it's most effective against heavily armored stacks, although with only a 20% chance of occurring it cannot be relied upon.


See also:[edit | hide]