https://heroes.thelazy.net//index.php?title=Talk:Mysticism&feed=atom&action=historyTalk:Mysticism - Revision history2024-03-29T14:29:16ZRevision history for this page on the wikiMediaWiki 1.40.1https://heroes.thelazy.net//index.php?title=Talk:Mysticism&diff=64397&oldid=prev89.123.253.233: /* Table */2023-07-06T06:22:27Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Table</span></span></p>
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</table>89.123.253.233https://heroes.thelazy.net//index.php?title=Talk:Mysticism&diff=64396&oldid=prev89.123.253.233: /* Calculation */2023-07-06T06:21:19Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Calculation</span></span></p>
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</table>89.123.253.233https://heroes.thelazy.net//index.php?title=Talk:Mysticism&diff=54025&oldid=prevImahero at 15:59, 18 May 20212021-05-18T15:59:14Z<p></p>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Mysticism is one of those secondary skills, that have a good idea but the execution fails. A hero with Expert Mysticism gains four spell points per day, which is the same amount of points a hero with [[Mystic Orb of Mana]] (a [[:Category:Treasure artifacts|treasure class]] artifact) would gain. The only situation mysticism could be useful, is in maps with long traveling distances or maps with no [[magic well]]s or [[mage guild]]s to recharge spell points. However, these are rare occasions, of which the [[Dragon Slayer]] campaign might be one. In conclusion, mysticism is just not worth spending one of eight possible secondary skill slots.</del></div></td><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-added"></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Assuming that numbers are rounded down, it takes speciality Mysticism a while to be useful as well. At basic level, you will restore 1 additional MP per day for every 10 hero levels (10 * 5% * 2 MP), at advanced level, you will restore 1 additional MP per day for every 6-7 hero levels (6.66 * 5% * 3 MP), and at expert level, you will restore 1 additional MP per day for every 5 hero levels (5 * 5% * 4 MP). Surely by the time you reach this level, you should at least have access to one of the pendants of mana or similar artifact? -unsigned user</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Assuming that numbers are rounded down, it takes speciality Mysticism a while to be useful as well. At basic level, you will restore 1 additional MP per day for every 10 hero levels (10 * 5% * 2 MP), at advanced level, you will restore 1 additional MP per day for every 6-7 hero levels (6.66 * 5% * 3 MP), and at expert level, you will restore 1 additional MP per day for every 5 hero levels (5 * 5% * 4 MP). Surely by the time you reach this level, you should at least have access to one of the pendants of mana or similar artifact? -unsigned user</div></td></tr>
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</table>Imaherohttps://heroes.thelazy.net//index.php?title=Talk:Mysticism&diff=44308&oldid=prevLlVIU: /* Discussion */2020-03-09T15:14:08Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Discussion</span></span></p>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Assuming that numbers are rounded down, it takes speciality Mysticism a while to be useful as well. At basic level, you will restore 1 additional MP per day for every 10 hero levels (10 * 5% * 2 MP), at advanced level, you will restore 1 additional MP per day for every 6-7 hero levels (6.66 * 5% * 3 MP), and at expert level, you will restore 1 additional MP per day for every 5 hero levels (5 * 5% * 4 MP). Surely by the time you reach this level, you should at least have access to one of the pendants of mana or similar artifact?</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Assuming that numbers are rounded down, it takes speciality Mysticism a while to be useful as well. At basic level, you will restore 1 additional MP per day for every 10 hero levels (10 * 5% * 2 MP), at advanced level, you will restore 1 additional MP per day for every 6-7 hero levels (6.66 * 5% * 3 MP), and at expert level, you will restore 1 additional MP per day for every 5 hero levels (5 * 5% * 4 MP). Surely by the time you reach this level, you should at least have access to one of the pendants of mana or similar artifact? <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">-unsigned user</ins></div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Mysticism is one of those secondary skills, that have a good idea but the execution fails. A hero with Expert Mysticism gains four spell points per day, which is the same amount of points a hero with [[Mystic Orb of Mana]] (a [[:Category:Treasure artifacts|treasure class]] artifact) would gain. The only situation mysticism could be useful, is in maps with long traveling distances or maps with no [[magic well]]s or [[mage guild]]s to recharge spell points. However, these are rare occasions, of which the [[Dragon Slayer]] campaign might be one. In conclusion, mysticism is just not worth spending one of eight possible secondary skill slots.</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Mysticism is one of those secondary skills, that have a good idea but the execution fails. A hero with Expert Mysticism gains four spell points per day, which is the same amount of points a hero with [[Mystic Orb of Mana]] (a [[:Category:Treasure artifacts|treasure class]] artifact) would gain. The only situation mysticism could be useful, is in maps with long traveling distances or maps with no [[magic well]]s or [[mage guild]]s to recharge spell points. However, these are rare occasions, of which the [[Dragon Slayer]] campaign might be one. In conclusion, mysticism is just not worth spending one of eight possible secondary skill slots.</div></td></tr>
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</table>99.241.29.200https://heroes.thelazy.net//index.php?title=Talk:Mysticism&diff=31662&oldid=prevImahero: Created page with "== Discussion == Mysticism is one of those secondary skills, that have a good idea but the execution fails. A hero with Expert Mysticism gains four spell points per day, which..."2018-03-29T20:29:40Z<p>Created page with "== Discussion == Mysticism is one of those secondary skills, that have a good idea but the execution fails. A hero with Expert Mysticism gains four spell points per day, which..."</p>
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Mysticism is one of those secondary skills, that have a good idea but the execution fails. A hero with Expert Mysticism gains four spell points per day, which is the same amount of points a hero with [[Mystic Orb of Mana]] (a [[:Category:Treasure artifacts|treasure class]] artifact) would gain. The only situation mysticism could be useful, is in maps with long traveling distances or maps with no [[magic well]]s or [[mage guild]]s to recharge spell points. However, these are rare occasions, of which the [[Dragon Slayer]] campaign might be one. In conclusion, mysticism is just not worth spending one of eight possible secondary skill slots.</div>Imahero