Editing Proposals (section)

=== Content: Page Creation/Updating ===
==== Discussion ====
* [[The Story]]: Should we keep this? This seems to be a small summary of {{mm7}} and doesn't really add much to the [[Lost Lore]]. Thoughts? --[[User:Legate|Legate]] ([[User talk:Legate|talk]]) 19:46, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
** Maybe paraphrase/reference this on [[List of games set in Enroth (world)]]?

==== Main Page ====
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==== Missing Info ====
# <span style="color:orange">(IMPEDIMENT: Talk to HotA team)</span> I can't find any info about the following items: --[[User:Legate|Legate]] ([[User talk:Legate|talk]]) 00:46, 22 September 2024 (UTC)
#* "Kreegan's Horns" - [[Frontier]]
#* "Tuunbaq" - [[Frontier]]
# [[List of adventure map objects]]: Abandoned Mine missing RMG value.
# Flesh out pages for all [[Jadame]] regions and all [[Enroth (continent)]] regions.
#* Include some basic info and a map where possible.

==== Standardization ====
# Add story info to hero pages.
#* Standard heroes. Complete with exceptions:
#** Factory: {{Hn|Henrietta|0=}}, <s>{{Hn|Sam|0=}},</s> {{Hn|Wynona|0=}}<s>, Any updates from [[Homecoming (HotA)]]</s>
#* Campaign heroes with profiles: See [[Template:Campaign hero (profile) table]]
#** Status: <s>roe,</s> ab, <s>sod, hc,</s> hota
#* <s>Campaign heroes with portraits: See [[Template:Campaign hero (pic) table]].</s>
#* <s>Reskins: See list in [[Template:Campaign hero table (reskins)]].</s>
# Go through all artifact pages and remove information duplicated by the body text and templates on the right.
# Merge [[Join]] page into [[Wandering creature]] page.

==== Fix (HIGH priority) ====
# [[The Shores of Hell]]: Update map screenshots
# [[Timeline]]: [[Terror of the Seas]] level 1 ([[Prisoner of Doom]]) mentions on Day 1 that the [[Festival of Life]] is over.
# [[Template:Spell probability table]] uses a rough calculation for spell chance. Use the more detailed equation detailed on the page and update the numbers (see talk page for details).

==== Double-check ====
# [[Map Editor - Objects]] page mentions SoD bugs when specifying artifact / resource guards. Did these bugs actually occur in SoD? Have they been fixed completely in Hota? - [[User:Csaros|Csaros]] ([[User talk:Csaros|talk]])
# [[The Courtier]] mentions "Zoological Accounts" as supposedly another tale by [[Xanthor]]. Is this 1) Another [[Lost Lore]] story we don't have yet, 2) a story that was never published, or 3) A reference to the faction descriptions currently attributed to [[Marcus Finch]]?

==== Content Switches ====
{{-}}{{-}}''' Hide all HotA / DoR game content (not lore content) when not enabled:'''<br>
{{-}}{{-}}{{-}}{{-}}• For table rows, just add this to the row: <nowiki>|- class='onlyhota'</nowiki><br>
{{-}}{{-}}{{-}}{{-}}• For most other content just use: <nowiki>{{showwithhota|content}}</nowiki>. Can also use <nowiki>{{swh|HotaOnlyContent|SodOnlyContent}}</nowiki>.<br>
{{-}}{{-}}{{-}}{{-}}• In some circumstances, you might need to use: <nowiki><span class='onlyhota'>content</span></nowiki><br>
{{-}}{{-}}{{-}}{{-}}• For lists, use: <nowiki><ul class='onlyhota'><li>item</li><li>other item</li></ul></nowiki>. For numbered lists, swap "ul" to "ol".<br>
{{-}}{{-}}{{-}}{{-}}• See [[User:Imahero/hide]] for more examples.<br>
# Issues:
#* ERROR: The table <nowiki>|- class='onlyhota'</nowiki> seems to erroneously negate style settings for the row (style settings for the cell still work fine). --[[User:Legate|Legate]] ([[User talk:Legate|talk]]) 17:13, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
#** Which file holds the logic for the class content switches? I can't find it. I think it is one of the backend wiki files? --[[User:Legate|Legate]] ([[User talk:Legate|talk]]) 18:54, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
#** Pages to fix once this error is solved:
#*** Remove duplicates from all class tables (e.g. [[Template:Knight hero table]]) using <nowiki>{{Campaign hero table (profile)|Knight}}</nowiki>
#*** [[Template: Spell probability table]]
#*** [[Template:CrComprow]]
# Combine all templates/pages with (HotA) into single unified templates/pages.
#* Combine: [[External dwellings table (HotA)]], [[Adventure map object effects (HotA)]], [[Creatures on adventure map table (HotA)]]
#* Add in hota/sod change icons: Hero table templates (e.g. [[Template:Conflux hero table]])
# Double-check:
#* Needs checking/vetting: [[List of adventure map objects]] (also converting to use [[Template: AMOheader]]/[[Template:AMOrow]])

==== New Features (in progress) ====
# Maps (Lead: Legate)
#* Questions:
#*# Does [[Land of the Giants]] belong to [[AvLee]], [[Eeofol]] or [[Nighon]]?
#*#* Nighon: The [[Antagarich]] physical map colors it like [[Nighon]].
#*#** This agrees with [[Antagarich#Geography]] that Turnam just added. This states: "The Dungeon Overlords rule the eastern shores of the Erathian continent, as well as the Nighon islands off the coast."
#*#* Eeofol: [[World on Fire]] intro makes it seem like part of the halfling homeland.
#*#** Aren't "Eeofol" and "Land of the Giants" synonyms anyway? In MM7, the "tunnels to Eeofol" lead you to the Land of the Giants region. --[[User:Turnam|Turnam]] ([[User talk:Turnam|talk]]) 08:43, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
#*#* AvLee: What we currently have on the maps.
#*#* RESOLUTION: [[Land of the Giants]] was part of the halfling homeland of [[Eeofol]] before the [[Night of Shooting Stars]]. It seems as though when the [[Kreegan]]s conquered [[Eeofol]], [[Nighon]] opportunistically grabbed it to create a foothold on the main continent. Since our maps are based ~1167 AS, lets change it to Nighon and add some explanation about this. --[[User:Legate|Legate]] ([[User talk:Legate|talk]]) 13:24, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
#*# I think the [[Contested Lands]] section is not entirely accurate. I think some of the regions listed may actually be part of Erathia.
#*#* [[Forestdale (region)]] should be part of [[Erathia]] (See [[Talk:Contested Lands]]). Pages/maps need to be updated.
#*#* Possibly move regions to [[Contested Lands]]. Consider: [[Marble Garden]], [[Forestdon]], [[Forestbury]], [[Forestlow]], [[Strongwillow]], [[Woodgrove]].
#*#** If we move these areas, they should be double-listed in [[Erathia]] and [[Contested Lands]] as both are true over the course of the game.
#*#* RESOLUTION: It seems like most of the [[AvLee]]-[[Erathia]] border was considered "Contested Lands" at some point. Only a portion of this region broke off from [[Erathia]] to form the nation of the "Contested Lands". Change maps/listings appropriately.
#* Still need:
#*# Countries: [[Regna]], [[Terra Nova]]
#*# Make a modified version of each country map that shows the country in question with the regions written in? --[[User:Legate|Legate]] ([[User talk:Legate|talk]]) 04:50, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
# [[List of games set in Enroth (world)]] (Lead: None)
# Update Town building trees. (Lead: Phasma)
#* Base: [[Tower]], [[Inferno]], [[Conflux]]
#* HotA-specific: [[Factory]]
# [[Hex Editing - Guide‎‎]] (Lead: Csaros)
#* This is all phenomenal info! Good job condensing it all to one page. --[[User:Legate|Legate]] ([[User talk:Legate|talk]]) 13:16, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
#* Are there any pictures that would add to the readability of this page? Maybe screenshots of the hex editor at specific locations?
#* Maybe it would be helpful to color the text to show how it line up better? Example:
#**<span style="color:orange">TT</span>000000 <span style="color:green">ID</span>000000 <span style="color:blue">AA</span>000000 <span style="color:red">DD</span>000000 <span style="color:teal">DM</span>000000 <span style="color:purple">U4</span>000000 <span style="color:gold">U5</span>000000
#***<span style="color:orange">TT</span> - item 1
#***<span style="color:green">ID</span> - item 2
#***<span style="color:blue">AA</span> - item 3
#***<span style="color:red">DD</span> - item 4
#***<span style="color:teal">DM</span> - item 5
#***<span style="color:purple">U4</span> - item 6
#***<span style="color:gold">U5</span> - item 7
#****That's actually a great idea. I think color-coding it would make it much easier to find appropriate explanations. At the same time, I don't know if there's a point in screenshoting the hex editor. I can screenshot the editor or the results of modding the game, but idk how that helps understand the coding. 
#*****At the same time, I wish someone else who knows more than I do could help me with what I'm missing - f.e. Resource Silos, Mana Generator, etc. - [[User:Csaros|Csaros]] ([[User talk:Csaros|talk]])
#* Prepare a detailed table for heroes, creatures, spells etc. with reference IDS and all relevant offsets.
#** Is there an easy way to create tables for the wiki, other than rewriting values row by row one by one? [[User:Csaros|Csaros]] ([[User talk:Csaros|talk]]) 15:35, 18 October 2024 (UTC)
# H3CSS Graphical overhaul for the wiki. (Lead: None)
#* Phasma added a bunch of pics for the desired look to the discord channel, just need someone with CSS knowledge (or desire to learn) to run with it! --[[User:Legate|Legate]] ([[User talk:Legate|talk]]) 15:18, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
# Create a [[Campaign Editor]] page. (Lead: Csaros)
#* Include the no-campaign map watercolor paintings (e.g. [[:File:Cmap hota 4.png]]).
#** Status: Started adding maps. Need to check what is available in the campaign editor and correct this page/add captions. I am not sure if we have all of the actual maps uploaded or not. --[[User:Legate|Legate]] ([[User talk:Legate|talk]]) 14:05, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
#*** Just went into the campaign editor, here are the maps we are missing:
#**** Song for the Father
#**** Long Live the Queen (although it's a 3-map copy of Dungeons and Devils)
#**** Long Live the King (near-identical to Song for the Father)
#**** Islands (it contains 3 islands, first two are star with 4-points shaped the last one is squarish; I think it may be Foolhardy Waywardness map, but I may misremember it)
#**** Unholy Alliance
#**** Terror of the Seas (4 islands + what appears to be Erathia)
#**** Horn of the Abyss

==== Desired Additions ====
# <span style="color:orange">(IMPEDIMENT: Finish "Wanted" pages)</span> Make a supporting characters page. (See [[:Category: Supporting character]]). Have sortable columns for name/affiliation/species.
# Create Lore page that will fit all main information and links to all detailed pages on the lore (we can include chronology, politics, [[Lost Lore]], etc. into this). - [[User:Csaros|Csaros]] ([[User talk:Csaros|talk]])
#* Are you envisioning something different than the Lore tab on the main menu? --[[User:Legate|Legate]] ([[User talk:Legate|talk]]) 13:46, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
#** Yes, something more akin to f.e. [https://www.gildia.acidcave.net/chronologia_ashanu.html acidcave's Ashan lore page], which explains in details the entire timeline, plot of each campaign, notes on all important backstory events mention; it also covers what happened to most of relevant campaign characters at every point (here the Queen was born, here Sandro's parents was killed, here Markal became his student etc.) all in one nice to read text. I wish something like this existed for H3; I, sadly, don't know enough about heroes 3 lore to write it (and then I wouldn't wish for it). - [[User:Csaros|Csaros]] ([[User talk:Csaros|talk]])