Editing Talk:Cloak of the Undead King

== overpowered? ==
I think this artifact is almost overpowered because it is easy to amass swarms of liches on large maps. I have played games where I have gotten over 500 Liches due to luck in finding the artifacts and Expert Necromancy before level 5. At any rate it increases the sheer power of Necropolis even more.  <small><span class="autosigned"> — Preceding [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment was added by [[User: BlackHeart | BlackHeart ]] ([[User talk: BlackHeart |talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/ BlackHeart |contribs]])  11:53, 24 December 2008 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned -->

:Agreed. But good luck doing Sandro's campaign without it.  <small><span class="autosigned"> — Preceding [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment was added by [[User: Sandmanahoy | Sandmanahoy ]] ([[User talk: Sandmanahoy |talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/ Sandmanahoy |contribs]])  21:45, 5 June 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned -->

::Hells yeah, Sandro is a bitch to do without my lucky liches!  <small><span class="autosigned"> — Preceding [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment was added by [[User: 80.202.178.251 | 80.202.178.251 ]] ([[User talk: 80.202.178.251 |talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/ 80.202.178.251 |contribs]])  01:17, 24 September 2010  (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned -->

==Question 1==
Does anyone know if the Cloak of the Undead King affects transformations done through the skeletal transformer?  <small><span class="autosigned"> — Preceding [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment was added by [[User: 174.3.246.144 | 174.3.246.144 ]] ([[User talk: 174.3.246.144 |talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/ 174.3.246.144 |contribs]])  21:15, 11 November 2010 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned -->

:No. It does not. The transformer only makes skeletons in a 1:1 ratio. <small><span class="autosigned"> — Preceding [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment was added by [[User: 78.90.168.12 | 78.90.168.12 ]] ([[User talk: 78.90.168.12 |talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/ 78.90.168.12 |contribs]])  21:55, 12 May 2011 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned -->

== Addition ==
Does it mean that this Cloak adds +60% to [[Necromancy]] in total with item Effects? --[[User:HaxLi|HaxLi]] 21:06, 5 March 2014 (CET)

It is 30% in total (SoD). I've just made a test: a hero with basic Necromncy and the artifact killed 1000 elves and got 400 walking dead (40%, 10% from Necromancy, 30% from the artifact). The page data is wrong.

== Question 2 ==
Within ordinary necromancy skill, normal skeletons are raised. But if there is no slot left and at least one slot of skeleton warriors, I force the game to give me skeleton warrioirs. However, only in count of 2/3 of normal skeletons.
Does this rule work also in case of liches/power liches? It is better to have 15 liches instead of 10 power liches.
An additional question to calculation, the entire case:
expert necromancy: 30
Isra on level 10: 30*0,05*10 = 15
1x Necromancy Amplifier: 10
Amulet of the Undertaker: 5
Vampire's Cowl: 10
Dead Man's Boots: 15
Cloak of the Undead King: it is said 30%, but are the source artifacts counted in it, or do we have additional +30%?
Or is the only effect, that this 30% may be also from allied creatures?

So, this Isra will raise 30% of allied + (85% or 100%) of enemy units into liches? or x (1 or 2/3) into power liches?

== just leaving it here ==
{| class="wikitable"
! colspan=20 | SoD 
|-
| || no necro || colspan=3 | basic necro || colspan=3 | advanced necro || colspan=3 | expert necro 
|-
|  || {{cn| Skeleton|noname=}} || {{cn| Skeleton|noname=}} || {{cn| Walking Dead |noname=}} 15 hp || {{cn| Skeleton|noname=}} || {{cn| Skeleton|noname=}} || {{cn| Wight|noname=}} 18 hp || {{cn| Skeleton|noname=}} || {{cn| Skeleton|noname=}} || {{cn| Lich|noname=}} 30 hp || {{cn| Skeleton|noname=}}
|-
|  || cloak || no arts || combo cloak || broken cloak || no arts || combo cloak || broken cloak || no arts || combo cloak || broken cloak
|-
| 1000 peasants (1 hp) || 50 || 16 || 26 || 66 || 32 || 27 || 82 || 50 || 20 || 100
|-
| 1000 imps (4 hp) || 200 || 66 || 106 || 266 || 132 || 110 || 332 || 200 || 80 || 400
|-
| 1000 gnolls (6 hp) || 300 || 100 || 160 || 400 || 200 || 166 || 500 || 300 || 120 || 600
|-
| (3 stacks) || 298 || 99 || 159 || 399 || 198 || 165 || 499 || 298 || 118 || 598
|-
| 1000 nomads (30 hp) || 300 || 100 || 400 || 400 || 200 || 500 || 500 || 300 || 600 || 600
|-
| (3 stacks) || 298 || 99 || 399 || 399 || 198 || 499 || 499 || 298 || 598 || 598
|-
! colspan=20 | SoD (upgraded creatures)
|-
| || no necro || colspan=3 | basic necro || colspan=3 | advanced necro || colspan=3 | expert necro
|-
|  || {{cn| Skeleton Warrior|noname=}} || {{cn| Skeleton Warrior|noname=}} || {{cn| Zombie |noname=}} 20 hp || {{cn| Skeleton Warrior|noname=}} || {{cn| Skeleton Warrior|noname=}} || {{cn| Wraith|noname=}} 18 hp || {{cn| Skeleton Warrior|noname=}} || {{cn| Skeleton Warrior|noname=}} || {{cn| Power Lich|noname=}} 40 hp || {{cn| Skeleton Warrior|noname=}}
|-
|  || cloak || no arts || combo cloak || broken cloak || no arts || combo cloak || broken cloak || no arts || combo cloak || broken cloak
|-
| 1000 peasants || 34 || 11 || 18 || 44 || 22 || 18 || 55 || 34 || 14 || 67
|-
| 1000 imps || 132 || 44 || 70 || 177 || 88 || 74 || 222 || 132 || 54 || 266
|-
| 1000 gnolls || 200 || 67 || 107 || 267 || 134 || 111 || 334 || 200 || 80 || 400
|-
| (3 stacks) || 199 || 66 || 106 || 266 || 132 || 110 || 333 || 199 || 79 || 399
|-
| 1000 nomads || 200 || 67 || 267 || 267 || 134 || 334 || 334 || 200 || 400 || 400
|-
| (3 stacks) || 199 || 66 || 266 || 266 || 132 || 333 || 333 || 199 || 399 || 399
|-
| 1002 gnolls ||  || 67 ||  || 267 ||  ||  ||  ||  ||  || 
|-
| (3 stacks) ||  || 66 (???) ||  || 266 (??!) ||  ||  ||  ||  ||  || 
|} --[[User:GroundhogYear|GroundhogYear]] ([[User talk:GroundhogYear|talk]]) 16:23, 29 April 2021 (UTC)