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Replaced content with "Random bits for fun. User:Turnam/Pre-release screenshots == Vori: Bulwark vs. Palace == {| class="wikitable" ! !! {{Town|Bulwark}} !! {{Town|Palace}} |- ! Alignment | Neutral || Good |- ! Visual Style | Dwarven Arts Déco || Faerie/Asian |- ! Mood | Grimdark || High Fantasy |- ! Tier 1 | Kobold -> Kobold Foreman || Nisse -> Tomte or Viking -> Einherjar |- ! Tier 2 | Argali (goat) || Ice Maiden -> Yuki Onna |- ! Tier 3 | Snow Elf (hunter) || White Tig..."
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== Pathfinding vs. Logistics ==
== [[Vori]]: [[Bulwark]] vs. [[Palace]] ==
{| cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2 style="border: 1px solid black; text-align: center; margin:0 0 10px 7px; background:#{{Tan 3}}; float:right;"
{| class="wikitable"
|+ style="text-align:center;" | {{swh}} '''Maximum tiles moved depending on tile cost''' {{swh}}
! !! {{Town|Bulwark}} !! {{Town|Palace}}
|- style="background-color:#{{Tan 2}};"
! Movement points !! [[File:Road3 (cobblestone) 32x32.gif]] 50 !! [[File:Road2 (gravel) 32x32.gif]] 65 !! [[File:Road1 (dirt) 32x32.gif]] 75 !! [[File:Dirt (s).gif]][[File:Grass (s).gif]][[File:Lava (s).gif]][[File:Subterranean (s).gif]]{{showwithhota|[[File:Highlands (s).gif]]}} 100 !! [[File:Rough (s).gif]]{{showwithhota|[[File:wasteland (s).gif]]}} 125 !! [[File:Sand (s).gif]] 150 !! [[File:Swamp (s).gif]] 175
|-
|-
! 1500
! Alignment
| 30 || 23 || 20 || 15 || 12 || 10 || 8
| Neutral || Good
|- style="background-color:#{{Tan 4}};"
| [[File:Expert Logistics small.png]] || {{swh|noicon=|36|39}} || {{swh|noicon=|27|30}} || {{swh|noicon=|24|26}} || {{swh|noicon=|18|19}} || {{swh|noicon=|14|15}} || {{swh|noicon=|12|13}} || {{swh|noicon=|10|11}}
|- style="background-color:#{{Tan 4}};"
| [[File:Expert Pathfinding small.png]] || 30 || 23 || 20 || {{swh|noicon=|17|15}} || {{swh|noicon=|17|15}}  || {{swh|noicon=|17|15}}  || 15
|-
|-
! 1560
! Visual Style
| 31 || 24 || 20 || 15 || 12 || 10 || 8
| Dwarven Arts Déco || Faerie/Asian
|- style="background-color:#{{Tan 4}};"
| [[File:Expert Logistics small.png]] || {{swh|noicon=|37|40}} || {{swh|noicon=|28|31}} || {{swh|noicon=|24|27}} || {{swh|noicon=|18|20}} || {{swh|noicon=|14|16}} || {{swh|noicon=|12|13}} || {{swh|noicon=|10|11}}
|- style="background-color:#{{Tan 4}};"
| [[File:Expert Pathfinding small.png]] || 31 || 24 || 20 || {{swh|noicon=|18|15}} || {{swh|noicon=|18|15}}  || {{swh|noicon=|18|15}}  || 15
|-
|-
! 1630
! Mood
| 32 || 25 || 21 || 16 || 13 || 10 || 9
| Grimdark || High Fantasy
|- style="background-color:#{{Tan 4}};"
| [[File:Expert Logistics small.png]] || {{swh|noicon=|39|42}} || {{swh|noicon=|30|32}} || {{swh|noicon=|26|28}} || {{swh|noicon=|19|21}} || {{swh|noicon=|15|16}} || {{swh|noicon=|13|14}} || {{swh|noicon=|11|12}}
|- style="background-color:#{{Tan 4}};"
| [[File:Expert Pathfinding small.png]] || 32 || 25 || 21 || {{swh|noicon=|19|16}} || {{swh|noicon=|19|16}}  || {{swh|noicon=|19|16}}  || 16
|-
|-
! 1700
! Tier 1
| 34 || 26 || 22 || 17 || 13 || 11 || 9
| Kobold -> Kobold Foreman || Nisse -> Tomte or Viking -> Einherjar
|- style="background-color:#{{Tan 4}};"
| [[File:Expert Logistics small.png]] || {{swh|noicon=|40|44}} || {{swh|noicon=|31|34}} || {{swh|noicon=|27|29}} || {{swh|noicon=|20|22}} || {{swh|noicon=|16|17}} || {{swh|noicon=|13|14}} || {{swh|noicon=|11|12}}
|- style="background-color:#{{Tan 4}};"
| [[File:Expert Pathfinding small.png]] || 34 || 26 || 22 || {{swh|noicon=|20|17}} || {{swh|noicon=|20|17}}  || {{swh|noicon=|20|17}}  || 17
|-
|-
! 1760
! Tier 2
| 35 || 27 || 23 || 17 || 14 || 11 || 10
| Argali (goat) || Ice Maiden -> Yuki Onna
|- style="background-color:#{{Tan 4}};"
| [[File:Expert Logistics small.png]] || {{swh|noicon=|42|45}} || {{swh|noicon=|32|35}} || {{swh|noicon=|28|30}} || {{swh|noicon=|21|22}} || {{swh|noicon=|16|18}} || {{swh|noicon=|14|15}} || {{swh|noicon=|12|13}}
|- style="background-color:#{{Tan 4}};"
| [[File:Expert Pathfinding small.png]] || 35 || 27 || 23 || {{swh|noicon=|20|17}} || {{swh|noicon=|20|17}}  || {{swh|noicon=|20|17}}  || 17
|-
|-
! 1830
! Tier 3
| 36 || 28 || 24 || 18 || 14 || 12 || 10
| Snow Elf (hunter) || White Tiger -> Sabertooth
|- style="background-color:#{{Tan 4}};"
| [[File:Expert Logistics small.png]] || {{swh|noicon=|43|47}} || {{swh|noicon=|33|36}} || {{swh|noicon=|29|31}} || {{swh|noicon=|21|23}} || {{swh|noicon=|17|19}} || {{swh|noicon=|14|15}} || {{swh|noicon=|12|13}}
|- style="background-color:#{{Tan 4}};"
| [[File:Expert Pathfinding small.png]] || 36 || 28 || 24 || {{swh|noicon=|21|18}} || {{swh|noicon=|21|18}}  || {{swh|noicon=|21|18}}  || 18
|-
|-
! 1900
! Tier 4
| 38 || 29 || 25 || 19 || 15 || 12 || 10
| Yeti -> Mountain Spirit || Snow Elf -> High Elf (mage)
|- style="background-color:#{{Tan 4}};"
| [[File:Expert Logistics small.png]] || {{swh|noicon=|45|49}} || {{swh|noicon=|35|38}} || {{swh|noicon=|30|32}} || {{swh|noicon=|22|24}} || {{swh|noicon=|18|19}} || {{swh|noicon=|15|16}} || {{swh|noicon=|13|14}}
|- style="background-color:#{{Tan 4}};"
| [[File:Expert Pathfinding small.png]] || 38 || 29 || 25 || {{swh|noicon=|22|19}} || {{swh|noicon=|22|19}}  || {{swh|noicon=|22|19}}  || 19
|-
|-
! 1960
! Tier 5
| 39 || 30 || 26 || 19 || 15 || 13 || 11
| (Snow Elf) Shaman || Yeti
|- style="background-color:#{{Tan 4}};"
| [[File:Expert Logistics small.png]] || {{swh|noicon=|47|50}} || {{swh|noicon=|36|39}} || {{swh|noicon=|31|33}} || {{swh|noicon=|23|25}} || {{swh|noicon=|18|20}} || {{swh|noicon=|15|16}} || {{swh|noicon=|13|14}}
|- style="background-color:#{{Tan 4}};"
| [[File:Expert Pathfinding small.png]] || 39 || 30 || 26 || {{swh|noicon=|23|19}} || {{swh|noicon=|23|19}}  || {{swh|noicon=|23|19}}  || 19
|-
|-
! 2000
! Tier 6
| 40 || 30 || 26 || 20 || 16 || 13 || 11
| Mammoth -> Armored Mammoth || Kirin
|- style="background-color:#{{Tan 4}};"
| [[File:Expert Logistics small.png]] || {{swh|noicon=|48|52}} || {{swh|noicon=|36|40}} || {{swh|noicon=|32|34}} || {{swh|noicon=|24|26}} || {{swh|noicon=|19|20}} || {{swh|noicon=|16|17}} || {{swh|noicon=|13|14}}
|- style="background-color:#{{Tan 4}};"
| [[File:Expert Pathfinding small.png]] || 30 || 23 || 20 || {{swh|noicon=|23|20}} || {{swh|noicon=|23|20}}  || {{swh|noicon=|23|20}}  || 20
|-
|-
! 2000+[[File:Boots of Speed am-artif.gif]][[File:Equestrian's Gloves am-artif.gif]][[File:Castle Stables.gif|32px]]
! Tier 7
| {{swh|noicon=|58|66}} || {{swh|noicon=|44|50}} || {{swh|noicon=|38|44}} || {{swh|noicon=|29|33}} || {{swh|noicon=|23|26}} || {{swh|noicon=|19|22}} || {{swh|noicon=|16|18}}
| Jotunn -> Jotunn Warlord || Frost Giant -> Jotun or Valkyrie
|- style="background-color:#{{Tan 4}};"
|-
| [[File:Expert Logistics small.png]] || {{swh|noicon=|69|85}} || {{swh|noicon=|53|66}} || {{swh|noicon=|46|57}} || {{swh|noicon=|34|42}} || {{swh|noicon=|27|34}} || {{swh|noicon=|23|28}} || {{swh|noicon=|19|24}}
! Mages Guild
|- style="background-color:#{{Tan 4}};"
| 3? || 5
| [[File:Expert Pathfinding small.png]] || {{swh|noicon=|58|66}} || {{swh|noicon=|44|50}} || {{swh|noicon=|38|44}} || {{swh|noicon=|34|33}} || {{swh|noicon=|34|33}}  || {{swh|noicon=|34|33}}  || {{swh|noicon=|29|33}}
|-
! War Machine
| ??? || ???
|-
! Resource Silo
| ??? || ???
|-
! Shipyard
| ??? || Yes
|-
! Artifact Merchants
| ??? || ???
|-
! Specific Buildings
| Huge horn || Astrologer & Market of Time
|}
|}
This table shows how many tiles in a straight line (not diagonal) a hero can move, depending on how much movement points it starts with and the cost of movement. For each amount, the movement is shown for basic move (without any movement skill), with Expert-level Logistics (which increases by the hero's movement points by {{swh|20%|30%|noicon=}}), or Expert-level Pathfinding (which reduces the movement cost down by 75 points down to a minimum of {{swh|85|100|noicon=}}).
* Pathfinding is useless on roads. Obviously, it will not find better paths than the roads.
* Logistics is {{swh|slightly|noicon=}} better on easy terrains{{swh||, slightly better on rough terrain,|noicon=}} and especially good on roads.
* Pathfinding is{{swh| slightly better on rough and wasteland terrains, and|noicon=}} better on sand and swamp.

Revision as of 11:51, 29 March 2025

Random bits for fun. User:Turnam/Pre-release screenshots

Vori: Bulwark vs. Palace

Bulwark Palace
Alignment Neutral Good
Visual Style Dwarven Arts Déco Faerie/Asian
Mood Grimdark High Fantasy
Tier 1 Kobold -> Kobold Foreman Nisse -> Tomte or Viking -> Einherjar
Tier 2 Argali (goat) Ice Maiden -> Yuki Onna
Tier 3 Snow Elf (hunter) White Tiger -> Sabertooth
Tier 4 Yeti -> Mountain Spirit Snow Elf -> High Elf (mage)
Tier 5 (Snow Elf) Shaman Yeti
Tier 6 Mammoth -> Armored Mammoth Kirin
Tier 7 Jotunn -> Jotunn Warlord Frost Giant -> Jotun or Valkyrie
Mages Guild 3? 5
War Machine ??? ???
Resource Silo ??? ???
Shipyard ??? Yes
Artifact Merchants ??? ???
Specific Buildings Huge horn Astrologer & Market of Time
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