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'''Damage''' is a general term for the amount of [[health]] loss a [[creature]] or a [[spell]] can cause to a single creature or to a creatures [[stack]]. If a creature suffers more damage than its current health, it is eliminated, while in a stack of creatures, the topmost dies. The remainder of the damage is dealt to the next one and so forth until all damage is dealt or the whole stack is eliminated.
Creature's ability to deal damage typically has a range, which means that it causes randomly chosen damage between the minimum and maximum value. Some creatures like [[Naga]]s do not have a damage treshold meaning they always do the same amount of damage. Creatures in a stack cause individual damages, and the combined damage of the stack is calculated by adding them together. However, the final damage can deviate from the combined damage greatly because of different additions and reductions, which are covered in the next section.
Spells damage dealing follow the same rules as mentioned above. However, they do not have a range of damage, but deal damage based on individual formulas. The formulas are always linear format: Ax+B, where x equals the value of [[Primary skill#Power skill|spell power]] while A and B are variables defined by the spell. Damage from spell cannot be reduced, although some creatures have [[Spell immunity|immunities]] against certain types of spells. Damage can be increased, if the target creature has natural [[vulnerability]] against the spell. For example, [[Water Elemental]]s are immune to [[Ice Bolt]] and [[Frost Ring]] meaning they do not suffer damage from them, but take extra 50% of damage from certain [[School of Fire Magic|fire school]] spells like [[Fireball]].
== Damage calculation of creature stacks ==
=== Basic calculation ===
As mentiondd above, combined damage is calculated by adding all the individual damages of cretures in a stack together. Then the damage is modified by different variables in order to determine the final damage. The most significant factor is the difference of attacker's attack value and defender's defese value. They are determined by adding up attack skills of the attacking hero and attacking creature type, and by adding up defense skill of the defending hero and defending creature type. If the attacking creature's combined attack value is higher than defending creature's combined defense value, in other words if the difference is positive, then the attacking creature recieves +5% increase to its damage for every point the attack value is higher up to 60 points, +300%. If the difference is negative, then the attacking creature recieves -2.5% penalty for its damage for every point the attck value is lower up to 28 points, -70%. If the difference is 0, then the creature recieves no bonuses or penalties.
It should be noted, that there has been some debate wheter the bonus is 300% or 400%. To clarify this issue, the bonus is +300% but the damage is 400% compared to non-modified. To phrase the same question mathematically, bonus of +300% is "1 + 3.00 x 1" and the damage of 400% is "1 x 4.00" – in the end, they are equivalent.
=== Secondary skills & spells ===
=== Secondary skills & spells ===
This base damage is modified by attack and defense skills, which are calculated as the sum of the [[Primary skill#Attack_skill|attack]] and [[Primary skill#Defense_skill|defense]] skills of [[hero]]es and [[creature]]s, adjusted for any [[native terrain]] bonuses and effects of spells and creature specialties (e.g., [[bloodlust]], [[disease]]). When a creature stack attacks, its attack skill is compared with the defending creature stack’s defense skill. The attacker receives a 5% bonus to its base damage for every point that its attack skill is higher than the defender’s defense skill, and a 2.5% penalty for every point that it is lower. When attack and defense skill are equal, base damage is not modified .
This base damage is modified by attack and defense skills, which are calculated as the sum of the [[Primary skill#Attack_skill|attack]] and [[Primary skill#Defense_skill|defense]] skills of [[hero]]es and [[creature]]s, adjusted for any [[native terrain]] bonuses and effects of spells and creature specialties (e.g., [[bloodlust]], [[disease]]). When a creature stack attacks, its attack skill is compared with the defending creature stack’s defense skill. The attacker receives a 5% bonus to its base damage for every point that its attack skill is higher than the defender’s defense skill, and a 2.5% penalty for every point that it is lower. When attack and defense skill are equal, base damage is not modified .
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{{Table row|B1|0.05 x (A - D)    | ''(capped at 3)Attacker's attack is skill greater than defender's defense skill||A2=left}}
{{Table row|B1|0.05 x (A - D)    | ''(capped at 3)Attacker's attack is skill greater than defender's defense skill||A2=left}}
{{Table row|B2|0.10 / 0.25 / 0.50 |[[Archery]] skill||A2=left}}
{{Table row|B2|0.10 / 0.25 / 0.50 |[[Archery]] skill ||A2=left}}
{{Table row|B3|0.10 / 0.20 / 0.30 |[[Offense]] skill||A2=left}}
{{Table row|B3|0.10 / 0.20 / 0.30 |[[Offense]] skill ||A2=left}}
{{Table row|B4|1.00              |Luck||A2=left}}
{{Table row|B4|1.00              |Luck             ||A2=left}}
{{Table row|C1|0.05 x lvl x spec  |Specialty (archery / offense)||A2=left}}
{{Table row|C1|0.03 x lvl / unit lvl|Bless||A2=left}}
{{Table row|C2|1.00              |Ballista does double damage||A2=left}}
{{Table row|C3|0.05 x hex        |Cavalier/Champion||A2=left}}
{{Table row|C2|1.00              |Attacker is an opposite elemental type||A2=left}}
{{Table row|C2|0.50              |Attacker 'hates' the Defender||A2=left}}
{{Table row|C2|1.00              |Dread knight's double damage||A2=left}}
|}
|}
{|
| B1 || 0.05 x (A - D) ''(capped at 3) || Attacker's attack is skill greater than defender's defense skill
|-
| B2 || 0.10 / 0.25 / 0.50 || [[Archery]] skill
|-
| B3 || 0.10 / 0.20 / 0.30 || [[Offense]] skill
|-
| B4 || 1.00 || Luck
|}
Attacker is a shooter  Archery Skill bonus, additive with artifact bonuses if Archery skill present
B2  Attacking hero has Archery specialty  0,05 * Hero level * Archery bonus
Attacking hero has Offense specialty
0,05 * Hero level * Offense bonus
Attacker is a Ballista, does double damage
1
1
Attacker is a Cavalier/Champion
0,05 * hexes traveled
Attacker is an opposite Elemental type
1
Attacker 'hates' the Defender
0,5
Dread knight's double damage
1
Bless specialty Hero, Bless is cast
0,03 * Hero level / Unit level


==== Example ====  
==== Example ====  
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*The '''difference''' between the [[Pikeman|Pikemen]] attack ('''4''') and the [[naga]]s defense ('''13''') would mean '''9 malus points''' with a malus point resulting in 2.5 % each malus point (the half of the bonus points).
*The '''difference''' between the [[Pikeman|Pikemen]] attack ('''4''') and the [[naga]]s defense ('''13''') would mean '''9 malus points''' with a malus point resulting in 2.5 % each malus point (the half of the bonus points).
* ((2.5)*-9)% is -22.5% damage the [[Pikeman|Pikemen]] can damage the [[naga]]s with.
* ((2.5)*-9)% is -22.5% damage the [[Pikeman|Pikemen]] can damage the [[naga]]s with.
=== Damage of spells === 
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[[Category: Terms]]

Revision as of 18:09, 14 July 2014

Secondary skills & spells

This base damage is modified by attack and defense skills, which are calculated as the sum of the attack and defense skills of heroes and creatures, adjusted for any native terrain bonuses and effects of spells and creature specialties (e.g., bloodlust, disease). When a creature stack attacks, its attack skill is compared with the defending creature stack’s defense skill. The attacker receives a 5% bonus to its base damage for every point that its attack skill is higher than the defender’s defense skill, and a 2.5% penalty for every point that it is lower. When attack and defense skill are equal, base damage is not modified .

The effects of attack and defense skills are capped. Attack skill can increase damage with no more than 300%, and defense skill can decrease damage with no more than 70%. These caps are reached, respectively, when attack skill is 60 higher or 28 lower than defense skill. Thus, attack and defense skills can modify a base damage of 100 to no less than 30 and no more than 400.

Variable Value Situtation
B1 0.05 x (A - D) (capped at 3)Attacker's attack is skill greater than defender's defense skill
B2 0.10 / 0.25 / 0.50 Archery skill
B3 0.10 / 0.20 / 0.30 Offense skill
B4 1.00 Luck
C1 0.05 x lvl x spec Specialty (archery / offense)
C1 0.03 x lvl / unit lvl Bless
C2 1.00 Ballista does double damage
C3 0.05 x hex Cavalier/Champion
C2 1.00 Attacker is an opposite elemental type
C2 0.50 Attacker 'hates' the Defender
C2 1.00 Dread knight's double damage

Example

No heroes are assumed to be present in the battle.

  • 2 Nagas attack a stack of Pikemen.
  • The Nagas have a single unit damage value of 20 and their Attack skill is 16.
  • A Pikeman has 10 health and their Defense skill is 5.
  • The base stack damage done by the stack of Nagas is 2 * 20 = 40.
  • The Pikemen's Defense skill (5) is subtracted from the Nagas' Attack skill (16), which gives us 11, giving the nagas an att/def damage bonus.
  • The dealt damage will after the att/def consideration thusly have the bonus percentage modificator of 5%, multiplied with the damage bonus number in this case, 11, resulting in 55% bonus percentage of the Nagas damage towards the Pikemen.
  • So the damage is increased by a 55% increase and the nagas through superior attack skill have 155% damage on the Pikemen stack.
  • The total damage thus is 40 * 1.55 = 62 damage points.
  • 6 Pikemen will be killed, and the top Pikemen of the remaining stack will have 8 health left.

When the remaining (if any) Pikemen (attack points of 4) attack the nagas (sporting 13 points of defense):

  • -22.5% damage would be dealt by the Pikemen to the 5 creature level higher naga chimera stack.
  • The difference between the Pikemen attack (4) and the nagas defense (13) would mean 9 malus points with a malus point resulting in 2.5 % each malus point (the half of the bonus points).
  • ((2.5)*-9)% is -22.5% damage the Pikemen can damage the nagas with.
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