|
|
| Line 2: |
Line 2: |
| Although in the original {{roe}} there was an [[adventure map]] location called [[market of time]], which supposedly was intended to allow hero to "forget" secondary skills. | | Although in the original {{roe}} there was an [[adventure map]] location called [[market of time]], which supposedly was intended to allow hero to "forget" secondary skills. |
|
| |
|
| == Bad Hero & No Artifacts == | | == Bad Hero & No Artifacts (TheKnownWorld/MeKick) == |
| {| cellpadding=5 cellspacing=0 width=200px style="background-color:#{{green 4}}; text-align:left; border:1px solid; float:left; margin-right:20px;"
| | [[Talk:Secondary_skill/Bad_Hero_No_Artifacts|Bad Hero & No Artifacts]] |
| ! MeKick's ranking
| |
| |-
| |
| |- style="background-color:#{{Green 2}};"
| |
| | height=25px | [[File: Expert Navigation.png|22px|link=]] 1: Navigation
| |
| |-
| |
| | height=25px | [[File: Expert First Aid.png|22px|link=]] 2: First Aid
| |
| |-
| |
| | height=25px | [[File: Expert Eagle Eye.png|22px|link=]] 3: Eagle Eye
| |
| |-
| |
| | height=25px | [[File: Expert Learning.png|22px|link=]] 4: Learning
| |
| |-
| |
| | height=25px | [[File: Expert Scholar.png|22px|link=]] 5: Scholar | |
| |-
| |
| | height=25px | [[File: Expert Estates.png|22px|link=]] 6: Estates
| |
| |-
| |
| | height=25px | [[File: Expert Mysticism.png|22px|link=]] 7: Mysticism
| |
| |-
| |
| | height=25px | [[File: Expert Artillery.png|22px|link=]] 8: Artillery
| |
| |-
| |
| | height=25px | [[File: Expert Scouting.png|22px|link=]] 9: Scouting
| |
| |-
| |
| | height=25px | [[File: Expert Pathfinding.png|22px|link=]] 10: Pathfinding
| |
| |-
| |
| | height=25px | [[File: Expert Diplomacy.png|22px|link=]] 11: Diplomacy
| |
| |-
| |
| | height=25px | [[File: Expert Sorcery.png|22px|link=]] 12: Sorcery
| |
| |-
| |
| | height=25px | [[File: Expert Resistance.png|22px|link=]] 13: Resistance
| |
| |-
| |
| | height=25px | [[File: Expert Ballistics.png|22px|link=]] 14: Ballistics
| |
| |-
| |
| | height=25px | [[File: Expert Archery.png|22px|link=]] 15: Archery
| |
| |-
| |
| | height=25px | [[File: Expert Luck.png|22px|link=]] 16: Luck
| |
| |-
| |
| | height=25px | [[File: Expert Leadership.png|22px|link=]] 17: Leadership
| |
| |-
| |
| | height=25px | [[File: Expert Intelligence.png|22px|link=]] 18: Intelligence
| |
| |-
| |
| | height=25px | [[File: Expert Water Magic.png|22px|link=]] 19: Water Magic
| |
| |-
| |
| | height=25px | [[File: Expert Fire Magic.png|22px|link=]] 20: Fire Magic
| |
| |-
| |
| | height=25px | [[File: Expert Earth Magic.png|22px|link=]] 21: Earth Magic
| |
| |-
| |
| | height=25px | [[File: Expert Air Magic.png|22px|link=]] 22: Air Magic
| |
| |-
| |
| | height=25px | [[File: Expert Tactics.png|22px|link=]] 23: Tactics
| |
| |-
| |
| | height=25px | [[File: Expert Armorer.png|22px|link=]] 24: Armorer
| |
| |-
| |
| | height=25px | [[File: Expert Offense.png|22px|link=]] 25: Offense
| |
| |-
| |
| |- style="background-color:#{{Green 2}};"
| |
| | height=25px | [[File: Expert Wisdom.png|22px|link=]] 26: Wisdom
| |
| |-
| |
| | height=25px | [[File: Expert Necromancy.png|22px|link=]] 27: Necromancy
| |
| |-
| |
| | height=25px | [[File: Expert Logistics.png|22px|link=]] 28: Logistics
| |
| |}
| |
| | |
| The Heroes 3 Streamer/Youtuber MeKick (also known as TheKnownWorld) for his singleplayer challenge of "Bad Hero & No Artifacts" played with the following self-imposed rules for himself:
| |
| | |
| * Equipping artifacts is not allowed.
| |
| * Player heroes can not go to map objects that improve their abilities ([[Learning Stone]], [[School of Magic]], [[University]], etc).
| |
| * Upon every level up, pick the pre-determined "worse" option of the skills offered.
| |
| * No joining monsters.
| |
| | |
| The settings were as follows:
| |
| | |
| * Shadow of Death
| |
| * Random map template 8XM12a, Size XL+U
| |
| * 8 human/computer player FFA
| |
| * No water, Stone or Cobblestone Roads, and Strong Monsters
| |
| * Impossible difficulty
| |
| * Player starting town/hero/bonus: Fortress/[[Voy]]/Gold
| |
| * All computer starting towns/heroes/bonuses: random
| |
| | |
| As such, the predetermined list MeKick made for the following situation is on the left.
| |
| | |
| The ranking of these skills are up to debate and some of the positions are highly situational. [[Scouting]] and [[Scholar]] are extremely situational; on a main hero they can be considered wasted slots like [[Eagle Eye]] or [[First Aid]] as both are centered around helping other heroes rather than being a bonus for the hero that has them, but on expendable scout or transport secondary heroes they are considered some of the best skills to have. [[Navigation]] and [[Water Magic]] both greatly increase on value with maps with considerable waterways; the School of Water Magic has 3 adventure spells that only work on water. [[Pathfinding]] is a more valuable on maps without roads or with few roads that have adverse terrain, though it can be completely replaced by [[Wayfarer's Boots]] in [[Horn of the Abyss]].
| |
| | |
| [[First Aid]] is put in 2nd place as MeKick can not use artifacts including war machines; another completely useless skill, while [[Artillery]] is also put lower than it normally would be as the ballista can not be used, but it can still give control over arrow towers in a siege.
| |
| | |
| [[Diplomacy]] is put in 11th, as its main use, attracting monsters to your army, is forbidden by his own rule; and he can't visit a Library of Enlightenment at all. Its only use becomes lowering the surrender cost.
| |
| | |
| The changes [[Horn of the Abyss]] brings further possible changes to the ranking. [[Estates]], [[Mysticism]], [[Scouting]] have all been buffed, while [[Diplomacy]], [[Intelligence]], and [[Earth Magic]] have been weakened.
| |
|
| |
|
| == static numeration == | | == static numeration == |
| Is it just me or is the formatting terribly off for the static numeration? - juq | | Is it just me or is the formatting terribly off for the static numeration? - juq |
| :Probably depends on your skin. Do you know which one you are using? Posting a screenshot would also help us figure it out. [https://snipboard.io snipboard.io] is pretty easy to use. [[user:imahero|ima]] 21:59, 22 March 2021 (UTC) | | :Probably depends on your skin. Do you know which one you are using? Posting a screenshot would also help us figure it out. [https://snipboard.io snipboard.io] is pretty easy to use. [[user:imahero|ima]] 21:59, 22 March 2021 (UTC) |