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'''Pit fiends and pit lords''' are level 5 creatures of [[inferno town]]. They are recruited from the [[hell hole]].
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'''Pit Fiends and Pit Lords''' are the level 5 creatures of [[Inferno]]. They are recruited from the [[Hell Hole]].


Pit fiends and pit lords attack with tormenting whip blows. Once per combat, pit lords are able to [[Summon demons|resurrect]] dead allied troops as demons in place of another action. The number raised cannot be higher than the number of pit lords performing the resurrection.
''"Pit fiends and pit lords attack with tormenting whip blows. Once per combat, pit lords are able to [[Summon demons|resurrect]] dead allied troops as [[demons]] in place of another action. The number raised cannot be higher than the number of pit lords performing the resurrection"{{-}}<sup>[[Restoration of Erathia Manual Page 98|RoE manual]]''</sup>


== Special ability ==
== Special Ability: Demon Summoning ==
While pit fiends do not have any special abilities, pit lords are able to summon [[demon]]s by resurrecting dead creature stacks. Each pit lord can summon up to 50 [[health]] points wort of demons. Because demons have 35 hit points, this basically means that 7 pit lords can summon excactly 10 demons. However, total health of demons summoned this way can not exceed the total health of the dead stack nor can the number of demons exceed the number of creatures in the dead stack. In other words, the dead stack must have had at least 35 hit points in order for summoning to work. A stack of one [[pikeman]] cannot be resurrected while stack of four will summon one demon.
While Pit Fiends do not have any special abilities, Pit Lords are able to summon [[Demon]]s by resurrecting allied dead creature stacks. Each Pit Lord can summon up to 50 [[health]] points worth of Demons. Because Demons have 35 hit points, this means that 7 Pit Lords can summon exactly 10 Demons. However, the total health of demons summoned this way cannot exceed the total health of the dead stack nor can the number of demons exceed the number of creatures in the dead stack. In other words, the dead stack must have had at least 35 hit points in order for summoning to work. A stack of one [[Pikeman]] cannot be resurrected while a stack of four will summon one demon. The full table can be seen [[Summon demons#Demoning table|here]].


It should be noted that [[non-living]] cannot be converted to demons. Additionally, health increasing artifacts ([[Ring of Life]], [[Ring of Vitality]], [[Vial of Lifeblood]] and [[Elixir of Life]]) are counted in the calculations dead creature stack's total health.   
It should be noted that [[non-living]] cannot be converted to Demons. Additionally, health increasing artifacts ([[Ring of Life]], [[Ring of Vitality]], [[Vial of Lifeblood]] and [[Elixir of Life]]) are counted in the calculations dead creature stack's total health.  Opposite, if a stack dies under effect of [[poison]] or [[aging]] its total HP value is reduced. Summoning takes up the pit lord's turn.


=== Demon herding ===
=== Demon herding ===
Demon herding is a tactic that can be used for Inferno. The basic idea is, that the player deliberately sacrifices [[imp]]s and [[gog]]s in combat in order to summon them back as demons. This is based to the fact that imps and gogs have lower attack to defense ratings than demons, and therefore their hit points are more valuable. You can also herd demons from cheap low level troops from other [[town type]]s. Additionally, [[Clone|cloning]] hero's pit lords will grant and extra number of demon summonings. By using the Clone spell or having multiple Pit Lord stacks, it is possible to resurrect the same Demon stack several times during a single battle.
[[Summon_demons#Strategy – Demon Herding|Demon herding]] (also called demon farming) is a strategy that can be used for Inferno. The basic idea is, that the player deliberately sacrifices [[Imp]]s and [[Gog]]s in combat in order to summon them back as demons. This is based on the fact that imps and gogs have lower attack to defense ratings than demons, and therefore the demon's hit points are theoretically more valuable (do note that [[Magogs]] have a powerful ranged ability, however). You can also herd demons from cheap low-level troops from other [[town]]s. Additionally, [[Clone|cloning]] hero's pit lords will grant an extra number of demon summonings. By using the Clone spell or having multiple Pit Lord stacks, it is possible to resurrect the same Demon stack several times during a single battle.  
 
Note that [[Cursed Ground]] prevents Pit Lords from raising Demons.
 
==== Calculation ====
The count of resurrected is determined by:
 
{{Math|min(floor(min([dead_count]*[dead_single_health], [pit_lord_count]*50)/35), [dead_count])}}
 
In order to use the full potential of resurrection, [dead_single_health] shouldn't exceed the health of demon (35). If the stack consisted from imps, optimal count of units is 12.5 times count of pit lords; if the stack contained gogs, optimal count of creatures is ~3.8 times count of pit lords (provided no health increasing artifact is in place).
 
== Heroes with a specialty ==
*{{H|Nymus|Demoniac}} has pit fiends as a [[Specialty#Creature_specialties|specialty]], which increases the attack and defense skills of any pit fiends or lords for each level attained after 5th level and gives them a [[speed]] bonus of 1.
 
== Appearance ==
Pit Lords appear at the beginning of the [[Oblivion's Edge]] scenario from the [[Armageddon's Blade (campaign)|Armageddon's Blade]] campaign.
 
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{{Fanopinion|
Pit Fiends and Pit Lords are decent level 5 creatures, boasting good stats, but pretty low health. However, the Lords' main role is to summon [[demons]] from allied dead stacks when fighting wandering monsters, in a tactic called "Demon farming/herding". In big battles, they are used as offensive support units.
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Summon Demons can also be used to win fights without (meaningful) losses: as long as you were going to convert Imps into Demons anyway, might as well let them soak enemy blows and retaliations -- AI loves attacking low-level creatures when given the chance.  If no sacrificial recruits are available, Demons themselves can be resurrected, although this requires some skill, as only a fully dead stack can be targeted, so just the right amount of Demons must be separated into a second stack, and AI must be incited to attack it instead of the main stack.
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Of note is that the total Demon HP a weekly growth of Pit Lords can revive is 50% higher than what a weekly growth of [[Archangel]]s could manage, and the former can also be [[Clone]]d without any [[Water Magic]] skill, which compensates somewhat for the ability's much more narrow utility.
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{{creature 'see also'}}
* [[Comparison of Level 5 Creatures]]


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Latest revision as of 17:39, 9 September 2024

Inferno creatures
Level 1
Imp Imp
Familiar Familiar
Level 2
Gog Gog
Magog Magog
Level 3
Hell Hound Hell Hound
Cerberus Cerberus
Level 4
Demon Demon
Horned Demon Horned Demon
Level 5
Pit Fiend Pit Fiend
Pit Lord Pit Lord
Level 6
Efreeti Efreeti
Efreet Sultan Efreet Sultan
Level 7
Devil Devil
Arch Devil Arch Devil
Towns
Castle Rampart Tower
Inferno Necropolis Dungeon
Stronghold Fortress Conflux
Cove Factory
Neutral
Statistics
Pit Fiend
 Cost per troop 

500

Attack 13
Defense 13
Damage 13–17
Health 45
Speed 6
Movement Ground
Size 1
Growth 3
AI Value 765
Pit Lord
 Cost per troop 

700

Attack 13
Defense 13
Damage 13–17
Health 45
Speed 7
Movement Ground
Size 1
Growth 3
AI Value 1224
 Special abilities:
Summon demons
Portraits
Hell Hole  

Pit Fiends and Pit Lords are the level 5 creatures of Inferno. They are recruited from the Hell Hole.

"Pit fiends and pit lords attack with tormenting whip blows. Once per combat, pit lords are able to resurrect dead allied troops as demons in place of another action. The number raised cannot be higher than the number of pit lords performing the resurrection" RoE manual

Special Ability: Demon Summoning[edit | hide | hide all]

While Pit Fiends do not have any special abilities, Pit Lords are able to summon Demons by resurrecting allied dead creature stacks. Each Pit Lord can summon up to 50 health points worth of Demons. Because Demons have 35 hit points, this means that 7 Pit Lords can summon exactly 10 Demons. However, the total health of demons summoned this way cannot exceed the total health of the dead stack nor can the number of demons exceed the number of creatures in the dead stack. In other words, the dead stack must have had at least 35 hit points in order for summoning to work. A stack of one Pikeman cannot be resurrected while a stack of four will summon one demon. The full table can be seen here.

It should be noted that non-living cannot be converted to Demons. Additionally, health increasing artifacts (Ring of Life, Ring of Vitality, Vial of Lifeblood and Elixir of Life) are counted in the calculations dead creature stack's total health. Opposite, if a stack dies under effect of poison or aging its total HP value is reduced. Summoning takes up the pit lord's turn.

Demon herding[edit | hide]

Demon herding (also called demon farming) is a strategy that can be used for Inferno. The basic idea is, that the player deliberately sacrifices Imps and Gogs in combat in order to summon them back as demons. This is based on the fact that imps and gogs have lower attack to defense ratings than demons, and therefore the demon's hit points are theoretically more valuable (do note that Magogs have a powerful ranged ability, however). You can also herd demons from cheap low-level troops from other towns. Additionally, cloning hero's pit lords will grant an extra number of demon summonings. By using the Clone spell or having multiple Pit Lord stacks, it is possible to resurrect the same Demon stack several times during a single battle.

Note that Cursed Ground prevents Pit Lords from raising Demons.

Calculation[edit | hide]

The count of resurrected is determined by:

min(floor(min([dead_count]*[dead_single_health], [pit_lord_count]*50)/35), [dead_count])

In order to use the full potential of resurrection, [dead_single_health] shouldn't exceed the health of demon (35). If the stack consisted from imps, optimal count of units is 12.5 times count of pit lords; if the stack contained gogs, optimal count of creatures is ~3.8 times count of pit lords (provided no health increasing artifact is in place).

Heroes with a specialty[edit | hide]

  • NymusNymus Nymus the Demoniac has pit fiends as a specialty, which increases the attack and defense skills of any pit fiends or lords for each level attained after 5th level and gives them a speed bonus of 1.

Appearance[edit | hide]

Pit Lords appear at the beginning of the Oblivion's Edge scenario from the Armageddon's Blade campaign.

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Some may find the information in this section subjective or irrelevant.

Pit Fiends and Pit Lords are decent level 5 creatures, boasting good stats, but pretty low health. However, the Lords' main role is to summon demons from allied dead stacks when fighting wandering monsters, in a tactic called "Demon farming/herding". In big battles, they are used as offensive support units.


Summon Demons can also be used to win fights without (meaningful) losses: as long as you were going to convert Imps into Demons anyway, might as well let them soak enemy blows and retaliations -- AI loves attacking low-level creatures when given the chance. If no sacrificial recruits are available, Demons themselves can be resurrected, although this requires some skill, as only a fully dead stack can be targeted, so just the right amount of Demons must be separated into a second stack, and AI must be incited to attack it instead of the main stack.


Of note is that the total Demon HP a weekly growth of Pit Lords can revive is 50% higher than what a weekly growth of Archangels could manage, and the former can also be Cloned without any Water Magic skill, which compensates somewhat for the ability's much more narrow utility.


See also:[edit | hide]