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== Special Abilities ==
=====Mind Spell Immunity=====
Unlike the Black Dragon's full [[Spell immunity]], the Giants and Titans are immune to only a few spells, but critical ones, among which [[Blind]] and [[Berserk]]. This allows them to be [[Resurrection|resurrected]], but also killed by attacking spells, or affected by any other kinds of spells like buffing or debuffing spells. However, on longer maps, offensive spells can become no more relevant.


== Tactics and info ==
== Tactics and info ==
''(This section contains a general opinion over the subject!)''
=== Toughness ===
=== Toughness ===
With a health value of 150 and 16 defense, Giants have the lowest health for a level 7 creature, also boasting the second lowest defense value of a level 7 unit, the [[Bone Dragon|Bone Dragon's]] being lower by 1. On the other hand, Titans have the highest health for a level 7 unit that is not neutral, its value being 300, only matched by the [[Black Dragon|Black Dragon's]] and the [[Ancient Behemoth|Ancient Behemoth's]] in {{roe}} (and [[Haspid|Haspid's]] in {{hota}}). However, Titans have 1 less defense than the [[Black Dragon]], but 5 more than the [[Ancient Behemoth]] (also 4 more than [[Haspid]] from {{hota}}). Their upgrade's health and defense bonus is also the highest and respectively the third highest in the game, being a bonus of +8 defense from the base creature and double the health.
With a health value of 150 and 16 defense, Giants have the lowest health for a level 7 creature, also boasting the second lowest defense value of a level 7 unit, the [[Bone Dragon|Bone Dragon's]] being lower by 1. On the other hand, Titans have the highest health for a level 7 unit that is not neutral, its value being 300, only matched by the [[Black Dragon|Black Dragon's]] and the [[Ancient Behemoth|Ancient Behemoth's]] in {{roe}} (and [[Haspid|Haspid's]] in {{hota}}). However, Titans have 1 less defense than the [[Black Dragon]], but 5 more than the [[Ancient Behemoth]] (also 4 more than [[Haspid]] from {{hota}}). Their upgrade's health and defense bonus is also the highest and respectively the third highest in the game, being a bonus of +8 defense from the base creature and double the health.
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=== Others ===
=== Others ===
Titans are one of the two upgraded tier 7 units that occupy one hex, the other being [[Arch Devil]]. They are also living constructs, being able to be resurrected, unlike [[Stone Golem and Iron Golem|golems]] and [[Stone Gargoyle and Obsidian Gargoyle|gargoyles]], but similar to the [[Crystal Dragon]].
Titans are one of the two upgraded tier 7 units that occupy one hex, the other being [[Arch Devil]]. They are also living constructs, being able to be resurrected, unlike [[Stone Golem and Iron Golem|golems]] and [[Stone Gargoyle and Obsidian Gargoyle|gargoyles]], but similar to the [[Crystal Dragon]].
== Special Abilities ==
=====Mind Spell Immunity=====
Unlike the Black Dragon's full [[Spell immunity]], the Giants and Titans are immune to only a few spells, but critical ones, among which [[Blind]] and [[Berserk]]. This allows them to be [[Resurrection|resurrected]], but also killed by attacking spells, or affected by any other kinds of spells like buffing or debuffing spells. However, on longer maps, offensive spells can become no more relevant.


== Trivia ==
== Trivia ==

Revision as of 12:12, 25 April 2020

Tower creatures
Level 1
Gremlin Gremlin
Master Gremlin Master Gremlin
Level 2
Stone Gargoyle Stone Gargoyle
Obsidian Gargoyle Obsidian Gargoyle
Level 3
Stone Golem Stone Golem
Iron Golem Iron Golem
Level 4
Mage Mage
Arch Mage Arch Mage
Level 5
Genie Genie
Master Genie Master Genie
Level 6
Naga Naga
Naga Queen Naga Queen
Level 7
Giant Giant
Titan Titan
Towns
Castle Rampart Tower
Inferno Necropolis Dungeon
Stronghold Fortress Conflux
Cove Factory
Neutral
Statistics
Giant
 Cost per troop 

2000

1
Attack 19
Defense 16
Damage 40–60
Health 150
Speed 7
Movement Ground
Size 1
Growth 1
AI Value 3718
 Special abilities:
Immunity to mind spells
Titan
 Cost per troop 

5000

2
Attack 24
Defense 24
Damage 40–60
Health 300
Speed 11
Movement Ground
Size 1
Shots 24
Growth 1
AI Value 7500
 Special abilities:
Ranged attack
Immunity to mind spells
• No melee Penalty
Hates Black Dragons
Portraits
Shadow of Death   Horn of the Abyss
Cloud Temple  

Giants and Titans are level 7 creatures of Tower town. They are recruited from the Cloud Temple.

"Giants and titans are immune to spells affecting the mind. Titans do 150% damage to black dragons, can hurl lightning bolts in a ranged attack and suffer no penalty for hand-to-hand attacks, making them the most powerful ranged attack unit in the game." RoE manual

Special Abilities

Mind Spell Immunity

Unlike the Black Dragon's full Spell immunity, the Giants and Titans are immune to only a few spells, but critical ones, among which Blind and Berserk. This allows them to be resurrected, but also killed by attacking spells, or affected by any other kinds of spells like buffing or debuffing spells. However, on longer maps, offensive spells can become no more relevant.

Tactics and info

(This section contains a general opinion over the subject!)

Toughness

With a health value of 150 and 16 defense, Giants have the lowest health for a level 7 creature, also boasting the second lowest defense value of a level 7 unit, the Bone Dragon's being lower by 1. On the other hand, Titans have the highest health for a level 7 unit that is not neutral, its value being 300, only matched by the Black Dragon's and the Ancient Behemoth's in Restoration of Erathia (and Haspid's in Horn of the Abyss). However, Titans have 1 less defense than the Black Dragon, but 5 more than the Ancient Behemoth (also 4 more than Haspid from Horn of the Abyss). Their upgrade's health and defense bonus is also the highest and respectively the third highest in the game, being a bonus of +8 defense from the base creature and double the health.

Offense

Giants and Titans have the highest max and overall (together with the Angels and Archangels) damage of a town affiliated creature, even higher than a Black Dragon's or Gold Dragon's. However, they have 1 less attack than the Black Dragon and 6 less than the most powerful town creature, the Archangel. Still, the difference between the Black Dragon's and the Titan's attack stat is minimal, and the later won't always be retaliated against when attacking, since they primarily use a ranged attack. And even then, the Titans have no-melee penalty. Titans also deal 150% damage against Black Dragons.

Efficiency and cost

Giants are very unimpressive 7th level creatures, and may not be worth the gold until your Cloud Temple sees an upgrade, especially due to their low health, defense and likelihood of being targeted by the AI. Titans, on the other hand, stand strong as one of the most powerful creatures in the game, boasting the highest health and max damage for an unit that is not neutral. However, here comes their only weakness: their creature and dwelling upgrade cost. The Titans are 1000 gold Gold more expensive than a Black Dragon with similar stats and 1 gem Gem less than an Archangel. The dwelling upgrade is also expensive in itself, but unlike other level 7 dwellings, you only pay a little price for the base dwelling (allowing you to accumulate more units earlier), and pay the rest of the resources with the upgrade.

Tactics

If your hero happens to be an expert in Earth Magic with slow you will be able to dismantle a majority of neutral creatures (not necessarily with the help of mages) before they can land a blow. Additionally - with their mind spell immunity, Titans will not fall prey to the Forgetfulness, Blind and Berserk spells. Even in melee combat, your Titans should lead you to victory in a wide range of combat match-ups.

Against Titans, it's recommended to attack them with all you've got before they start destroying your army, especially shooters. They should be targeted by offensive spells in the early game, like Implosion. However, keep in mind that they aren't affected by either Blind nor Berserk. You can also target them with Black Dragons for 150% damage, if you are sure to lower their numbers a lot, but this is riskier than having your Titans attack Black Dragons, since you probably won't be able to resurrect your dragons unless you have the Orb of Vulnerability equipped.

Skill bonuses

A hero with Archery as a skill would be very efficient, increasing the Titans' damage output more than Offense would to other level 7 creatures (Archery also has damage bonus artifacts, unlike Offense), making them deal 150% damage in ranged attacks with Expert Archery. With Bow of the Sharpshooter, all of their melee attacks will be ranged attacks, without chance of being retaliated against, except for their own retaliations which will be regular melee attacks. The artifact also adds a 30% bonus to ranged damage, which will make Titans inflict 180% damage with it and Expert Archery, almost double than the base damage.

Semantics

Together with the Black Dragon, the Titan has become a symbol of the Heroes series since it first appeared in Heroes of Might and Magic II: The Succession Wars.

Others

Titans are one of the two upgraded tier 7 units that occupy one hex, the other being Arch Devil. They are also living constructs, being able to be resurrected, unlike golems and gargoyles, but similar to the Crystal Dragon.

Trivia

The ability to "burn with anger" and do extra damage to Black Dragons is likely a reference to 3DO's previous title Heroes of Might and Magic II. In that game, the Wizard and Warlock were widely considered to be the strongest heroes and there was some debate among players as to the single strongest 6th level creature. It is also probably because they are supposed to be the opposite of "chaos", the Black Dragon, being created by the wizards with the scope of slaying them.

In one-on-one combat with no stats bonus, a Black Dragon barely defeats a single Titan. However, a difference of 1 more attack or defense for the Titan makes them win instead.

Comparing the Titans and Giants in the in-game cutscenes, fans estimate they are ~20 metres tall.

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