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  | B_effect = allows your hero to regenerate 2 spell points per day.
  | B_effect = allows your hero to regenerate 2 spell points per day. (5 in {{hota}}){{-wh}}
  | A_effect = allows your hero to regenerate 3 spell points per day.
  | A_effect = allows your hero to regenerate 3 spell points per day. (10 in {{hota}}){{-wh}}
  | E_effect = allows your hero to regenerate 4 spell points per day.
  | E_effect = allows your hero to regenerate 4 spell points per day. (15 in {{hota}}){{-wh}}
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'''Mysticism''' is one of [[secondary skill]]s. Normally heroes regenerate one [[spell point]] per day, but mysticism enables heroes to regenerate up to four points per day.
'''Mysticism''' is one of [[secondary skill]]s. Normally heroes regenerate one [[spell point]] per day, but mysticism enables heroes to regenerate up to four points per day.


'''Heroes who specialize in mysticism:'''
'''Heroes with Basic Mysticism as a starting skill:'''
* [[Axsis]] the [[Heretic]]
* {{H2|Ingham|Cleric}}
* [[Halon]] the [[Wizard]]
* {{H2|Josephine|Alchemist}}
* [[Jaegar]] the [[Warlock]]
* {{H2|Piquedram|Alchemist}}
* [[Rosic]] the [[Witch]]
* {{H2|Rissa|Alchemist}}
* {{H2|Thant|Necromancer}}
* {{H2|Torosar|Alchemist}}


'''Heroes who start with mysticism:'''
'''Heroes with {{PAGENAME}} as a specialty and a starting skill:'''
* [[Axsis]] the [[Heretic]] (basic)
* {{H2|Axsis|Heretic}} (Basic Mysticism)
* [[Finneas]] the [[Necromancer]] (basic)
* {{H2|Halon|Wizard}} (Basic Mysticism)
* [[Halon]] the [[Wizard]] (basic)
* {{H2|Jaegar|Warlock}} (Basic Mysticism)
* [[Ingham]] the [[Cleric]] (basic)
* {{H2|Rosic|Witch}} (Basic Mysticism)
* [[Jaegar]] the [[Warlock]] (basic)
* [[Josephine]] the [[Alchemist]] (basic)
* [[Piquedram]] the [[Alchemist]] (basic)
* [[Rissa]] the [[Alchemist]] (basic)
* [[Rosic]] the [[Witch]] (basic)
* [[Thant]] the [[Necromancer]] (basic)
* [[Torosar]] the [[Alchemist]] (basic)


'''Artifacts with similar ability:'''
'''Artifacts with similar ability:'''
* [[Charm of Mana]] – allows your hero to regenerate 1 spell points per day.
* {{An|Charm of Mana}} – regenerates 1 extra spell point per day.
* [[Talisman of Mana]] – allows your hero to regenerate 2 spell points per day.
* {{An|Talisman of Mana}} – regenerates 2 extra spell points per day.
* [[Mystic Orb of Mana]] – allows your hero to regenerate 3 spell points per day.
* {{An|Mystic Orb of Mana}} – regenerates 3 extra spell points per day.
* {{An|Wizard's Well}} - regenerates all spell points in a day.
 
=={{hota}}==
In [[Horn of the Abyss]]{{-wh}}, the skill regenerates 5, 10, and 15 spell points per day.
 
== Comparison with [[Intelligence]] ==
Both Intelligence and Mysticism increase the amount of mana the hero can spend before returning to their town (as spending a night at a town with a [[Mage Guild]] replenishes hero's mana pool). Assuming that heroes use a certain average amount of mana each day, and that the moment a hero runs out of mana they immediately return to one of their towns to replenish it, Mysticism is superior to Intelligence as long as the hero's average daily mana spending is less than 6 / 3.8 / 3 times their daily mana regeneration bonus from Mysticism respectively for Basic / Advanced / Expert Intelligence.
 
In simpler terms, Mysticism is preferable to Intelligence if on average, the hero spends ''at most'' 6 / 7.6 / '''9''' {{ws}} (24 / 34.2 / '''42''' {{wh}}) mana per day  (for Basic, Advanced and Expert respectively, assuming Mysticism and Intelligence are at the same level of proficiency).
 
Obviously, these assumptions do not apply if the hero has easy access to [[well]]s, [[magic spring]]s, the [[mana vortex]] or the [[Wizard's Well]] artifact.
 
== Chance to get ==
{{Secondary skill chance explanation}}
{{ZET SEC SKILL CHANCE TABLE| 2 (lowest) {{withsod}}| 4| 3| 6| 4| 8| 2 (lowest) {{withsod}}|10 (highest)| 4| 6| 3| 8| 3| 4| 2 (lowest) {{withsod}}| 8| 3| 8| 1 (lowest){{-wh}}| 3| 1 (lowest){{-wh}}| 5}}
 
{{user commentary|
In the traditional Heroes 3, Mysticism is usually ignored by players. There are opportunities to restore all mana points, namely [[Magic Well]]s and towns with a [[Mage Guild]], and a [[Magic Spring]] or [[Mana Vortex]] in [[Dungeon]] will double them. However, on rare occasions when a map doesn't have many places to reload mana it can be useful (e.g. on the map [[Azure Dragons (campaign scenario)|Azure Dragons]], the last scenario of [[Dragon Slayer]] campaign, Mage Guilds are absent in towns - while there is still a low possibility that you learn Mysticism, since you should win first three scenarios in order to proceed to the last one, and they aren't freebies, thus requiring [[Dracon]] to learn something stronger than Mysticism). In {{hota}}{{-wh}}, Mysticism earns much more spell points, and on expert level it allows to cast some high-level spells every day.
 
=== Things that ruin Mysticism ===
* [[Magic Well]]
* [[Magic Spring]]
* Spending a night in a town with [[Mage Guild]]
* [[Mana Vortex]]
* [[Wizard's Well]]
* [[Wizard's Well]]
* [[Altar of Mana]] {{withhota}}
}}{{end of user commentary}}


Wizard's Well is a [[combination artifact]] (which were introduced in {{sod}}). It is assembled from Charm of Mana, Talisman of Mana and Mystic Orb of Mana. When equipped, Wizard's Well regenerates hero's all spell points in a day.
{{secondary skill 'see also'}}
 
== Discussion ==
Mysticism is one of those secondary skills, that have a good idea but the execution fails. A hero with expert mysticism gains four spell points per day, which is the same amount of points a hero with [[Mystic Orb of Mana]] (a [[:Category:Treasure artifacts|treasure class]] artifact) would gain. The only situation mysticism could be useful, is in maps with long traveling distances or maps with no [[magic well]]s or [[mage guild]]s to recharge spell points. However, these are rare occasions, of which the [[Dragon Slayer]] campaign might be one. In conclusion, mysticism is just not worth spending one of eight possible secondary skill slots.


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Latest revision as of 12:16, 23 October 2024

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Mysticism
Basic Mysticism: allows your hero to regenerate 2 spell points per day. (5 in Horn of the Abyss) Horn of the Abyss
Advanced Mysticism: allows your hero to regenerate 3 spell points per day. (10 in Horn of the Abyss) Horn of the Abyss
Expert Mysticism: allows your hero to regenerate 4 spell points per day. (15 in Horn of the Abyss) Horn of the Abyss

Mysticism is one of secondary skills. Normally heroes regenerate one spell point per day, but mysticism enables heroes to regenerate up to four points per day.

Heroes with Basic Mysticism as a starting skill:

Heroes with Mysticism as a specialty and a starting skill:

Artifacts with similar ability:

Horn of the Abyss[edit | hide | hide all]

In Horn of the Abyss Horn of the Abyss, the skill regenerates 5, 10, and 15 spell points per day.

Comparison with Intelligence[edit | hide]

Both Intelligence and Mysticism increase the amount of mana the hero can spend before returning to their town (as spending a night at a town with a Mage Guild replenishes hero's mana pool). Assuming that heroes use a certain average amount of mana each day, and that the moment a hero runs out of mana they immediately return to one of their towns to replenish it, Mysticism is superior to Intelligence as long as the hero's average daily mana spending is less than 6 / 3.8 / 3 times their daily mana regeneration bonus from Mysticism respectively for Basic / Advanced / Expert Intelligence.

In simpler terms, Mysticism is preferable to Intelligence if on average, the hero spends at most 6 / 7.6 / 9 Shadow of Death (24 / 34.2 / 42 Horn of the Abyss) mana per day (for Basic, Advanced and Expert respectively, assuming Mysticism and Intelligence are at the same level of proficiency).

Obviously, these assumptions do not apply if the hero has easy access to wells, magic springs, the mana vortex or the Wizard's Well artifact.

Chance to get[edit | hide]

Out of total 112 for Shadow of Death, and of (112 + Interference chance) for Horn of the Abyss Horn of the Abyss.
Banned skills change the probability.

Town Class Chance to learn
Castle  Knight   2 (lowest) Shadow of Death
Castle  Cleric   4
Rampart  Ranger   3
Rampart  Druid   6
Tower  Alchemist   4
Tower  Wizard   8
Inferno  Demoniac   2 (lowest) Shadow of Death
Inferno  Heretic  10 (highest)
Necropolis  Death Knight   4
Necropolis  Necromancer   6
Dungeon  Overlord   3
Dungeon  Warlock   8
Stronghold  Barbarian   3
Stronghold  Battle Mage   4
Fortress  Beastmaster   2 (lowest) Shadow of Death
Fortress  Witch   8
Conflux  Planeswalker   3
Conflux  Elementalist   8
Cove Horn of the Abyss     Captain   1 (lowest) Horn of the Abyss
Cove Horn of the Abyss     Navigator   3
Factory Horn of the Abyss     Mercenary   1 (lowest) Horn of the Abyss
Factory Horn of the Abyss     Artificer   5


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In the traditional Heroes 3, Mysticism is usually ignored by players. There are opportunities to restore all mana points, namely Magic Wells and towns with a Mage Guild, and a Magic Spring or Mana Vortex in Dungeon will double them. However, on rare occasions when a map doesn't have many places to reload mana it can be useful (e.g. on the map Azure Dragons, the last scenario of Dragon Slayer campaign, Mage Guilds are absent in towns - while there is still a low possibility that you learn Mysticism, since you should win first three scenarios in order to proceed to the last one, and they aren't freebies, thus requiring Dracon to learn something stronger than Mysticism). In Horn of the Abyss Horn of the Abyss, Mysticism earns much more spell points, and on expert level it allows to cast some high-level spells every day.

Things that ruin Mysticism

See also:

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