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* ((2.5)*-9)% is -22.5% damage the [[Pikeman|Pikemen]] can damage the [[naga]]s with.
* ((2.5)*-9)% is -22.5% damage the [[Pikeman|Pikemen]] can damage the [[naga]]s with.


== External Links ==
Thread on [http://heroescommunity.com HeroesCommunity], started by Ecoris: [http://heroescommunity.com/viewthread.php3?TID=20955 Base damage calculation]<br>
Thread on [http://heroescommunity.com HeroesCommunity], started by Angelito: [http://heroescommunity.com/viewthread.php3?TID=11801 How do the offence and armorer skillls work exactly?] <br>
Thread on [http://heroescommunity.com HeroesCommunity], started by Ecoris: [http://heroescommunity.com/viewthread.php3?TID=21273 Rules for (Creature) Spells and Orbs]
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Revision as of 21:48, 1 August 2014

Damage is a general term for the amount of health loss a creature or a spell can cause to a single creature or to a creatures stack. If a creature suffers more damage than its current health, it is eliminated, while in a stack of creatures, the topmost dies. The remainder of the damage is dealt to the next one and so forth until all damage is dealt or the whole stack is eliminated.

Creature's ability to deal damage typically has a range, which means that it causes randomly chosen damage between the minimum and maximum value. Some creatures like Nagas do not have a damage treshold meaning they always do the same amount of damage. Creatures in a stack cause individual damages, and the combined damage of the stack is calculated by adding them together. However, the final damage can deviate from the combined damage greatly because of different additions and reductions, which are covered in the next section.

Spells can deal damage much like creatures do, except that the amount of inflicted damage does not vary within a range but is fixed. The exact amount of unmodified spell damage can always be calculated with a linear formula. For example, basic Lightning Bolt cast by a hero with 7 spell power does 7 × 25 + 10 = 185 damage. For other spells different values than 25 and 10 need to be substituted. The eventual amount of spell damage is modified as follows:

Damage calculation of creature stacks

The damage calculation formula

Table 1: Damage calculation variables
 Description 
 I1   = 0.05 × (Attack - Defense) (if A ≥ D)
 I2   = 0.10, 0.25, 0.50 for basic, advanced, expert Archery

        = 0.10, 0.20, 0.30 for basic, advanced, expert Offense 

 I3   = 0.05 × I2 × hero level for Archery/Offense specialty

     = 0.03 × (hero ÷ creature level) for Adela's bless

 I4   = 1.00 for lucky strikes
 I5   = 1.00 for Death Blow, Ballista double damage

     = 1.00 if Elemental attacks opposite Elemental type
     = 0.50 for hate
     = 0.05 × hexes travelled for Cavaliers, Champions

 R1 = 0.025 × (Defense - Attack) (if D ≥ A)
 R2 = 0.05, 0.10, 0.15 for basic, advanced, expert Armorer
 R3 = 0.05 × R2 × hero level for Armorer specialty
 R4 = 0.15 for Shield, 0.30 at advanced, expert level

   = 0.25 for Air Shield, 0.50 at advanced, expert level
   = 0.50 for shooter with (basic) Forgetfulness

 R5 = 0.50 if attacker has range or melee penalty 
 R6 = 0.50 if target is behind a wall (obstacle penalty
 R7 = 0.50 for retaliation after being Blinded

   = 0.75 for retaliation after advanced Blind

 R8 = 0.50 for Psychic Elemental vs. mind spell immunity

   = 0.50 for Magic Elemental vs. lvl 1-5 spell immunity
   = 0.50 if target is petrified
   = 0.75 for retaliation after being paralyzed

Mathematical formula for calculating the final damage (DMGf) is:

DMGf = DMGb × (1 + I1 + I2 + I3 + I4 + I5) × (1 - R1)×(1 - R2)×(1 - R3)×(1 - R4)×(1 - R5)×(1 - R6)×(1 - R7)×(1 - R8)

Primary determinant for the final damage is the base damage (DMGb), which is affected by the number of attacking creatures and their damage range. All other variables are basically modifiers of the base damage. Variables are denoted as I if they (i)ncrease damage and as R if they (r)educe it. I1 and R1 are mutually exclusive, but all other variables may simultaneously affect the final damage (DMGf). A brief summary of the variables have been given in the table on the right. To summarize the above formula, the content in the first parentheses increase the base damage by multiplying it with a modifier varying from 1.00 to 8.00, and the content in the second parentheses reduces the damage with a modifier varying from ~0.01 to 1.00.

Attack-Defense difference – variables I1 and R1

The Attack-Defense difference (ADD), denoted by I1 and R1 in the formula, is typically the main modifier of the base damage. It is calculated as the difference between the attacker's attack value and the defender's defense value. These are determined by adding up the attack skill of the attacking hero and of the attacking creature type, and by adding up defense skill of the defending hero and defending creature type. Spells and creature abilities that affect attack or defense values, such as Bloodlust or [disease]], are also taken into account in this part of the formula, as are any bonuses from native terrain or hero's creature specialties.

If the attacking creature's total attack value is higher than the defending creature's total defense value (i.e., the difference is positive), then the attacking creature receives a 5% bonus to its base damage for every point the attack value is higher. If the difference is negative, then the attacking creature receives a 2.5% penalty to its total damage for every point the attack value is lower. A positive ADD therefore increases damage, meaning that the variable I1 in the formula is positive whereas R1 is 0. Conversely, a negative ADD decreases damage, meaning that R1 is positive whereas I1 is 0. An Attack-Defense difference of 0 does not modify base damage.

The ADD can modify base damage only within 1.00...3.00 if ADD is postivie, and within 0.70...1.00 if ADD is negative. These limits are reached by a positive ADD of +60 and a negative ADD of -28. This means that a high attack skill can grant no more than +300% bonus damage, whereas a high defense skill can grant no more than a -70% penalty. Thus, the Attack-Defense difference can modify a base damage of 100 to no more than 400, and to no less than 30.

Secondary skill factors – variables I2 and I3

Variable I2 represents secondary skill modifier of either Archery or Offense depending on the attack type. Creatures able to attack from the distance gain bonus from the Archery secondary skill when using their ability, and if a creature engages into melee combat, it gains bonus to its damage from Offense secondary skill. For ranged attacks, Archery secondary skill may give 0, 0.10, 0.25 or 0.50 for I2 depending on what level the skill is (if any). Similarly, Offense may give 0, 0.10, 0.20 or 0.30 to melee attacks. Because creatures cannot peform ranged and melee attacks at the same time, Archery and Offense modifiers cannot affect damage simultaneously.

Variable R3 is related to Archery and Offense modifiers through heroes who specilize in these skills. There are three heroes specializing in Archery or Offense; Orrin specializes in Archery, while Gundula and Crag Hack specialize Offense. They receive additional bonus from Archery or Offense secondary skill, as calculated with the following formula:

I3 = 0.05 × hero level × I2

As can be seen from the formula, the specialty bonus requires that the hero has the appropriate secondary skill, otherwise I2 becomes 0, which leads I3 to become 0 as well. In other words, Orrin does not receive his specialty bonus if he does not have Archery secondary skill; same applies to Gundula and Crag Hack with Offense. By default these heroes start with the skill they specialize in, but in custom maps the map-maker may change the starting skills.

A special case of the variable I3 is Adela and her Bless specialty. Adela's Bless maximizes base damage as usual, but also deals extra damage according to the following formula:

I3 = 0.03 × hero level ÷ creature level

Because of the division, Adela's Bless bonus is greater for low-tier creatures. Her Bless grants +3% damage per her level to 1st level creatures, whereas it grants +0.6% per her level for 5th level creatures.

Luck as combat modifier – variable I4

The luck variable may be either 0 or 1.00, depending on whether or not the attacking creatures gets "a lucky strike". This is determined by the combat variable luck, which may be 0 (neutral), +1 (positive), +2 (good) or +3 (excellent). These values determine how often lucky strikes occur. These probabilities are, respectively, 0/24 (0%), 1/24 (4.17%), 1/12 (8.33%) and 1/8 (12.5%). Luck may be affected by artifacts, adventure map locations, spells and the Luck secondary skill.

Creature abilities – variable I5

The final variable capable of increasing total damage is I5, which denotes creature specialties from Cavaliers and Champions, Dread Knights, Ballistas, elementals, and creatures that hate each other. Dread Knights may strike Death Blow attacks, which gives variable I5 a value of 1.00, effectively doubling base damage (though not necessarily total damage). The I5 variable is also 1.00 for a Ballista whose shots deal double (base) damage. Additionally, there are a few creatures who hate each other, which gives I5 a value of 0.50 when they attack each other. This is true for Angels and Devils, Titans and Black Dragons, and Genies and Efreeti. Although Fire Elementals and Water Elementals, as well as Air Elementals and Earth Elementals do not hate each other, they also do double base damage against each other (i.e., I5 = 1.00). Finally, the jousting specialty of Cavaliers and Champions lets them deal 5% extra damage for every hex they travel during the combat turn in which they attack their target:

I5 = 0.05 × squares travelled

Defense variables

Secondary skill factors – variables R1 and R2

Similarly to the variables I2 and I3 variables R2 and R3 denote how Armorer and specializing in the skill affects the value of final damage. The reduction due to Armorer is not dependable on the attack type, but is the same for both ranged and melee damage. R2 can receive values 0, 0.05, 0.10 or 0.15, respectively indicating that a hero does not posses the skill, has it on basic, advanced or expert level. The three heroes with an Armorer specialty - Mephala, Neela and Tazar - increase the effectiveness of Armorer secondary skill by 5% for every level. Thus, as can be seen from the following formula, they double the effectiveness of the Armorer skill when they reach level 20:

D2 = 0.05 × hero level × D1

Armorer has two unexpected side effects. First, heroes with Armorer take extra damage from arrow towers. The damage reduction is reversed, as if the sign within the parenthesis would be plus instead of minus. Second, damage is reduced by 1 if creatures from a hero with Armorer take an amount of damage that is exactly an integer value. Thus, if 100 Peasants attack a stack of Peasants commanded by a hero with basic Armorer (and the ADD is 0), damage is not 100 × 1 ×(1 - 0.05) = 95, but 94. If the attack had instead been performed by 99 Peasants, the damage would be 99 × 1 ×(1 - 0.05) = 94.05, which is not an integer value and therefore rounded off in the usual way, that is, to 94.

Magic shields - Variable R4

There are many spells that modify damage, but most do so by increasing or decreasing the attack and defense skills of allied or enemy troops. Stone Skin, for example, increases an allied unit's defense skill, and therefore modifies damage by affecting variable R1. The only spells that modify damage directly are Shield, Air Shield, and Forgetfulness. Shield reduces all melee damage done to the hero's troops by 15% (R4 = 0.15), or even by 30% when cast with advanced or expert proficiency. Air shield reduces all ranged damage done to the hero's troops by 25% (R4 = 0.25), or by 50% when cast with advanced or expert proficiency. Similarly to Armorer and arrow towers, also Air Shield actually increases the damage from arrow towers instead if decreasing it.

Range and Melee penalty - variable R5

Ranged units do only 50% damage (R5 = 0.50) to targets that are situated at a distance of ten or more hexes on the combat field. This range penalty is negated by Sharpshooters and by heroes carrying the Golden Bow or Bow of the Sharpshooter. When a target occupies two hexes, it is possible for a range penalty to apply to the second hex, but not to the first hex the creature is standing on.

When a hex adjacent to a ranged unit is occupied by an enemy unit, the ranged unit is unable to shoot (i.e., blocked). It has to resort to melee attacks. This typically reduces its damage by 50% (R5 = 0.50). However, Beholders, Evil Eyes, Medusas, Medusa Queens, Magi, Arch Magi, Zealots, Enchanters and Titans are the only ranged units that do not suffer from this melee penalty.

Obstacle Penalty - variable R6

Ranged units that during a siege attack a target behind the wall receive an obstacle penalty if the wall protecing the target is not destroyed. As a result, their damage is reduced by 50% (R6 = 0.50). This damage is halved once again if a range penalty applies. The obstacle penalty is negated by Arch Magi and Sharpshooters, and by heroes carrying the Golden Bow or Bow of the Sharpshooter.

Mind spells - variable R7

The spell Blind is deactivated when a blinded creature stack is attacked. Any retaliation against this attack will not be at full strength. It will be at only 50% strength (R7 = 0.50) when Blind is cast with basic or no proficiency, and at 25% (R7 = 0.25) when cast with advanced proficiency. An attack that deactivates expert Blind cannot be retaliated against, but the targeted creature stack does retain its ability to retaliate against another attack in that same combat round. Unicorns and War Unicorns cast Blind with basic proficiency, unless the battle takes place on Magic Plains.

Additionally, when Forgetfulness cast with basic or no proficiency, it causes half of an enemy creature stack to forget to use its ranged attack, effectively halving its ranged damage (R7 = 0.50).

Creature Specialties - variable R8

Damage may also be reduced by some special abilities from creatures:

A special case of damage calculation concerns the spell and creature ability Fire Shield. Efreet Sultans and any creatures that have Fire Shield cast on them counter-inflict damage from melee attacks. This is calculated as follows:

Fire Shield damage = FS × DMGb × (1 + I1 + I2 + I3 + I4 + I5)

FS is a percentage that equals 0.20 for Efreet Sultans and (basic) Fire Shield, 0.25 for advanced Fire Shield, and 0.30 for expert Fire Shield.

Examples

No heroes are assumed to be present in the battle.

  • 2 Nagas attack a stack of Pikemen.
  • The Nagas have a single unit damage value of 20 and their Attack skill is 16.
  • A Pikeman has 10 health and their Defense skill is 5.
  • The base stack damage done by the stack of Nagas is 2 * 20 = 40.
  • The Pikemen's Defense skill (5) is subtracted from the Nagas' Attack skill (16), which gives us 11, giving the nagas an att/def damage bonus.
  • The dealt damage will after the att/def consideration thusly have the bonus percentage modificator of 5%, multiplied with the damage bonus number in this case, 11, resulting in 55% bonus percentage of the Nagas damage towards the Pikemen.
  • So the damage is increased by a 55% increase and the nagas through superior attack skill have 155% damage on the Pikemen stack.
  • The total damage thus is 40 * 1.55 = 62 damage points.
  • 6 Pikemen will be killed, and the top Pikemen of the remaining stack will have 8 health left.

When the remaining (if any) Pikemen (attack points of 4) attack the nagas (sporting 13 points of defense):

  • -22.5% damage would be dealt by the Pikemen to the 5 creature level higher naga chimera stack.
  • The difference between the Pikemen attack (4) and the nagas defense (13) would mean 9 malus points with a malus point resulting in 2.5 % each malus point (the half of the bonus points).
  • ((2.5)*-9)% is -22.5% damage the Pikemen can damage the nagas with.

External Links

Thread on HeroesCommunity, started by Ecoris: Base damage calculation
Thread on HeroesCommunity, started by Angelito: How do the offence and armorer skillls work exactly?
Thread on HeroesCommunity, started by Ecoris: Rules for (Creature) Spells and Orbs