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# Help clear the [[Special:SpecialPages|Maintenance Reports]] for unused/broken/wanted items!
# Help clear the [[Special:SpecialPages|Maintenance Reports]] for unused/broken/wanted items!
# Check out and verify [[Trivia#Unverified Claims]]
# Check out and verify [[Trivia#Unverified Claims]]
# Look for pages that need help and report them here (e.g. unreadable color scheme, missing info)
# Look for pages that need help and report them here (e.g. unreadable color scheme in "Aesthetics", missing info in "Missing Info")
#* Also report if data for an expansion is shown improperly (e.g. HotA data is seen when HotA is disabled via the switch on the top or left). Report these issues here in "Content Switches".
# Use {{tl|unk}} to mark text we need to fill in. That way all the unknown text will link to that template!
# Use {{tl|unk}} to mark text we need to fill in. That way all the unknown text will link to that template!
#* Also, help clear the pages linking to the template by filling in the missing info.
#* Also, help clear the pages linking to the template by filling in the missing info.
# Record any in-game bugs found here: [[List of bugs (HotA)]]
# Record any in-game bugs found here: [[List of bugs (HotA)]]


==Factory==
== Specific ==
# Clear out [[Special:WantedFiles]]
=== Research/Explain game concepts (HIGH priority) ===
#* TODO: A bunch of these just need already uploaded pngs to be converted to gifs:
#** Add factory heroes to [[Adventure map hero sprites]] (may just need to rename files/convert to gifs).
#** Add images of Factory dwellings for unit pages <s>and [[External dwellings table (HotA)]]</s>, and images of Factory creatures on the adventure map.
#* NOTES:
#** Great job with all the file uploads, [[User:imahero|imahero]]! --[[User:Legate|Legate]] ([[User talk:Legate|talk]]) 20:44, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
#** It looks as if assets that should be animated gifs are uploaded as a png with all the frames next to each other (e.g. [[:File:Avgarma.png]]). Is there an easy/automatic way to convert these to gifs?
#** Here is an [https://fastupload.io/en/RMEUyh9chlnVheB/file archive] with all the images extracted using MMArchive. MMArchive doesn't have the same limitations as FreeHeroes so you should be able to find everything there. –[[user_talk:imahero|imahero]] 23:14, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
# Add missing info for Factory puzzle map to [[Obelisk#Factory]]
# Add all [[Forged in Fire]] campaign scenario map info/events.
#* <s>[[World on Fire]]</s>
#* <s>[[Beyond the Horizon]]</s>
#* [[Dead or Alive]] - in progress
#* [[Tomb Raiders]]
#* [[Deus Ex Machina]] - in progress
#* [[Tarred and Feathered]]
#* [[New Order]]
#* [[Homecoming]]
#**Thank you, [[User:Turnam|Turnam]], for helping fill things in - usually I'd hammer them all out over a few weeks but I have irl commitments to attend to this month. [[File:Hero Cosmos small.gif|link=special:contributions/phasma|→ Phasma]] 18:25, 11 January 2024 (UTC)
# Add new heroes to [[Hero biographies]].
 
==Specific==
===Community Requests===
# Write tips on [[:category:campaign scenarios|campaign scenario]] pages ([[Special:Contributions/212.112.111.20|212.112.111.20]])
#* Sometimes there are tips on the main campaign pages under User Commentary. (e.g. [[Dragon's Blood]])
#* I've noticed there are a bunch of strategy/tips on https://mightandmagic.fandom.com/wiki/Tunnels_of_Ice. Should/Can we cite/copy that info here or leave a link to them?
#** The <i>CC BY-SA</i> seems like a very open license. I would just add attribution using the appropriate link (to the edit summary)
# A page (perhaps [[Maps/extra]]) with links to resources with extra maps and overall other external resources (such as h3 assist, etc) could be useful, especially for beginners. Is that allowed with the wiki, though? Can we link f.e. Xenofex's h3assist or maps4heroes and write how they're popular among players? - [[User:Csaros|Csaros]]
#* Yes. Anything related to Heroes 3 should be fine here. We already have a list for [[tools]]. Individual pages for each tool would also be fine. –[[user_talk:imahero|imahero]] 19:16, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
# [[Valley of the Dragon Lords]]: The Ring of Life is blocked by a guard post which will only let Gelu pass. This information and the related text messages are missing from the page.
 
===Research/Explain game concepts===
# [[Breath Attack]] could use a diagram of how it works (specifically when attacking straight up or down)
# [[Breath Attack]] could use a diagram of how it works (specifically when attacking straight up or down)
#* I found this, but I have no idea the accuracy or completeness. --[[User:Legate|Legate]] ([[User talk:Legate|talk]]) 03:43, 8 December 2023 (UTC)
#* I found this, but I have no idea the accuracy or completeness. --[[User:Legate|Legate]] ([[User talk:Legate|talk]]) 03:43, 8 December 2023 (UTC)
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#**** Actually, this is related to the pic just above. In the pic, top row, second from the left, I expected there to be a 2nd red arrow going in the down-left direction. The diagram does not have one, which matched the in-game behavior I saw. --[[User:Legate|Legate]] ([[User talk:Legate|talk]]) 15:32, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
#**** Actually, this is related to the pic just above. In the pic, top row, second from the left, I expected there to be a 2nd red arrow going in the down-left direction. The diagram does not have one, which matched the in-game behavior I saw. --[[User:Legate|Legate]] ([[User talk:Legate|talk]]) 15:32, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
#**** There is a bug (perhaps intended) that if a Mechanic attacks a two hex creature (usually I found it when attacking from the hex right above or right below the 2-hex monster) with the sword-arrow pointing to the direction from which she came to attack, the fire attack follows the direction of her movement and not the direction of the sword-arrow. - [[User:Csaros|Csaros]]
#**** There is a bug (perhaps intended) that if a Mechanic attacks a two hex creature (usually I found it when attacking from the hex right above or right below the 2-hex monster) with the sword-arrow pointing to the direction from which she came to attack, the fire attack follows the direction of her movement and not the direction of the sword-arrow. - [[User:Csaros|Csaros]]
# [[Obstacle Penalty]] could use a diagram or explanation of how it works. Is it everything inside the ring wall? Does obstacle penalty disappear when the wall goes down?
#**** This behavior matches the picture above, which was made a while ago...implying that this bug exists for dragons as well.  Testing needed. --[[User:Legate|Legate]] ([[User talk:Legate|talk]]) 18:13, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
#* I think it's still there even if a part of a wall is broken - [[User:Csaros|Csaros]]
# [[Power rating]]: Does the strongest hero calculation evaluate garrisoned heroes? --[[User:Legate|Legate]] ([[User talk:Legate|talk]]) 20:13, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
#* If your troops stand in a good position, as well as a part of a wall is broken, the Obstacle Penalty will disappear.
 
#** [[File:H3 townwalls.png|200px]]
=== Content: Page Creation/Updating ===
#* All the W hexed are indestructible. If the shooting trajectory passes through W hexes or other hexes that have not been destroyed, the Obstacle Penalty will be calculated, unless the shooters are stand inside the wall or the shooters ignore Obstacle Penalty. If you stand close enough, the Distance Penalty will also not be calculated. --[[User:Sanust|Sanust]] ([[User talk:Sanust|talk]]) 03:52, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
==== Main Page ====
* (none)
 
==== Missing Info ====
# Finish making pages for everything referenced in the campaign missions. Remaining: [[Barsolar‏‎]], [[Hemoross‏‎]], [[Necromancer's Guild‏‎]], [[King Eldrich Parson‏‎]]
# <span style="color:orange">(IMPEDIMENT: Talk to HotA team)</span> I can't find any info about the following items: --[[User:Legate|Legate]] ([[User talk:Legate|talk]]) 00:46, 22 September 2024 (UTC)
#* "Kreegan's Horns" - [[Frontier]]
#* "Tuunbaq" - [[Frontier]]
# [[List of adventure map objects (HotA)]] missing some RMG values.
#* I'm not sure how to look these values up. Any pointers? --[[User:Legate|Legate]] ([[User talk:Legate|talk]]) 01:34, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
# [[List of wars in Enroth (world)]] - Missing some "War of the Dove and Crow" info.
# Flesh out pages for all [[Jadame]] regions and all [[Enroth (continent)]] regions.
#* Include some basic info and a map where possible.
 
==== Standardization ====
# Add story info to hero pages.
#* Standard heroes. Complete with exceptions:
#** Factory: {{Hn|Henrietta|0=}}, <s>{{Hn|Sam|0=}},</s> {{Hn|Wynona|0=}}<s>, Any updates from [[Homecoming (HotA)]]</s>
#* Campaign heroes with profiles: See [[Template:Campaign hero (profile) table]]
#** Status: roe, ab, <s>sod, hc,</s> hota
#* <s>Campaign heroes with portraits: See [[Template:Campaign hero (pic) table]].</s>
#* <s>Reskins: See list in [[Template:Campaign hero table (reskins)]].</s>
 
==== Fix (HIGH priority) ====
# [[The Shores of Hell]]: Update map screenshots
# [[Timeline]]: [[Terror of the Seas]] level 1 ([[Prisoner of Doom]]) mentions on Day 1 that the [[Festival of Life]] is over.
 
==== Double-check ====
# [[Warlords of the Wasteland]] scenarios don't carry over the 1st most powerful hero?
# Both carry-over heroes are the 1st most powerful hero? (probably just add some note):
#* [[Conquest of the Underworld]] scenarios
#* [[Walking on Clouds]], [[The Magic that Binds]]
#* [[Distrust]], [[Dragons of Gossamer Wings]], [[Dragons of Deepest Blue]], [[Clash of the Dragons (campaign scenario)]]
#* [[The World Tree]] scenarios
#* [[The Fiery Moon (campaign scenario)]], [[Vorr, the Insane]]
#* [[Revolt of the Beastmasters]] scenarios
#* [[The Capture]], [[The Barbarian's Wife]], [[The Protectors of the Sword]]
# [[Dragon's Blood (campaign scenario)]]: Should the carryover 2 strongest heroes actually be Valita + 1st strongest hero?
# [[Map Editor]], [[Map Editor - Objects]] pages have some "unk" references. Figure out if they should be fixed or removed.
#* All unnecessary references on the pages above removed. Two remaining need a double-check. - [[User:Csaros|Csaros]] ([[User talk:Csaros|talk]]) 09:24, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
 
==== Content Switches ====
# Hide all HotA / DoR content when not enabled.
#* For table rows, just add this to the row: <nowiki>|- class='onlyhota'</nowiki>
#** ERROR: This seems to erroneously negate style settings for the row. --[[User:Legate|Legate]] ([[User talk:Legate|talk]]) 17:13, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
#* For most other content just use: <nowiki>{{showwithhota|content}}</nowiki>
#* In some circumstances, you might need to use: <nowiki><span class='onlyhota'>content</span></nowiki>
#* See [[User:Imahero/hide]] for more examples.
#** Pages that need work: Most of the hierarchy under [[Adventure Map]]
# Combine all templates/pages with (HotA) into single unified templates/pages.
#* Combine: Artifact table templates (e.g. [[Template:Artifact Helmet (HotA)]]), Hero table templates (e.g. [[Template:Conflux hero table (HotA)]], Creature table templates (e.g. [[Template:Neutral creature table (HotA)]]), [[External dwellings table (HotA)]], [[Adventure map object effects (HotA)]], [[Creatures on adventure map table (HotA)]]
#* Clean up redirects when done: [[Map Editor (HotA)]], [[List of spells (HotA)]], [[Artifact Events (HotA)]], [[List of adventure map objects (HotA)]]
#* Needs checking/vetting: [[List of adventure map objects]]
 
==== New Features (in progress) ====
# Maps (To Do list):
#* Questions:
#*# Does [[Land of the Giants]] belong to [[AvLee]], [[Eeofol]] or [[Nighon]]?
#*#* Nighon: The [[Antagarich]] physical map colors it like [[Nighon]].
#*#** This agrees with [[Antagarich#Geography]] that Turnam just added. This states: "The Dungeon Overlords rule the eastern shores of the Erathian continent, as well as the Nighon islands off the coast."
#*#* Eeofol: [[World on Fire]] intro makes it seem like part of the halfling homeland.
#*#* AvLee: What we currently have on the maps.
#*#* Aren't "Eeofol" and "Land of the Giants" synonyms anyway? In MM7, the "tunnels to Eeofol" lead you to the Land of the Giants region. --[[User:Turnam|Turnam]] ([[User talk:Turnam|talk]]) 08:43, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
#*#* RESOLUTION: [[Land of the Giants]] was part of the halfling homeland of [[Eeofol]] before the [[Night of Shooting Stars]]. It seems as though when the [[Kreegan]]s conquered [[Eeofol]], [[Nighon]] opportunistically grabbed it to create a foothold on the main continent. Since our maps are based ~1167 AS, lets change it to Nighon and add some explanation about this. --[[User:Legate|Legate]] ([[User talk:Legate|talk]]) 13:24, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
#*# I think the [[Contested Lands]] section is not entirely accurate. I think some of the regions listed may actually be part of Erathia.
#*#* [[Forestdale (region)]] should be part of [[Erathia]] (See [[Talk:Contested Lands]]). Pages/maps need to be updated.
#*#* Possibly move regions to [[Contested Lands]]. Consider: [[Marble Garden]], [[Forestdon]], [[Forestbury]], [[Forestlow]], [[Strongwillow]], [[Woodgrove]].
#*#** If we move these areas, they should be double-listed in [[Erathia]] and [[Contested Lands]] as both are true over the course of the game.
#*#* RESOLUTION: It seems like most of the [[AvLee]]-[[Erathia]] border was considered "Contested Lands" at some point. Only a portion of this region broke off from [[Erathia]] to form the nation of the "Contested Lands". Change maps/listings appropriately.
#* Still need:
#*# Countries: [[Regna]], [[Terra Nova]]
#*# Make a modified version of each country map that shows the country in question with the regions written in? --[[User:Legate|Legate]] ([[User talk:Legate|talk]]) 04:50, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
# [[List of games set in Enroth (world)]] - This could use vetting/additions by someone who know the lore well. [[User:FirePaladin2|FirePaladin2]], maybe :)? --[[User:Legate|Legate]] ([[User talk:Legate|talk]]) 18:40, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
# Update Town building trees. Remaining:
#* Base: [[Tower]], [[Inferno]], [[Conflux]]
#* HotA-specific: [[Factory]]
# [[Hex Editing - Guide‎‎]]
#* This is all phenomenal info! Good job condensing it all to one page. --[[User:Legate|Legate]] ([[User talk:Legate|talk]]) 13:16, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
#* Are there any pictures that would add to the readability of this page? Maybe screenshots of the hex editor at specific locations?
#* Maybe it would be helpful to color the text to show how it line up better? Example:
#**<span style="color:orange">TT</span>000000 <span style="color:green">ID</span>000000 <span style="color:blue">AA</span>000000 <span style="color:red">DD</span>000000 <span style="color:teal">DM</span>000000 <span style="color:purple">U4</span>000000 <span style="color:gold">U5</span>000000
#***<span style="color:orange">TT</span> - item 1
#***<span style="color:green">ID</span> - item 2
#***<span style="color:blue">AA</span> - item 3
#***<span style="color:red">DD</span> - item 4
#***<span style="color:teal">DM</span> - item 5
#***<span style="color:purple">U4</span> - item 6
#***<span style="color:gold">U5</span> - item 7
#****That's actually a great idea. I think color-coding it would make it much easier to find appropriate explanations. At the same time, I don't know if there's a point in screenshoting the hex editor. I can screenshot the editor or the results of modding the game, but idk how that helps understand the coding.
#*****At the same time, I wish someone else who knows more than I do could help me with what I'm missing - f.e. Resource Silos, Mana Generator, etc. - [[User:Csaros|Csaros]] ([[User talk:Csaros|talk]])
# H3CSS Graphical overhaul for the wiki
 
==== Desired Additions ====
# Create a [[Campaign Editor]] page.
#* Include the no-campaign map watercolor paintings (e.g. [[:File:Cmap hota 4.png]]).
# <span style="color:orange">(IMPEDIMENT: Finish "Wanted" pages)</span> Make a supporting characters page. (See [[:Category: Supporting character]]). Have sortable columns for name/affiliation/species.
 
=== File upload/editing ===
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{{-}}{{-}}{{-}}{{-}}• Animated png files will play on pages if they are full size. Animated gif files will play regardless.<br>
# Add pics of the toolstrip buttons for the [[Map Editor]] and [[Campaign Editor]].
# <span style="color:orange">(IMPEDIMENT: NEEDS H4)</span> I think we should add the intro video of Heroes 4 to [[The Reckoning]] with a note. Although this isn't part of Heroes 3, that video is really the final event in the Heroes 3 timeline/story. --[[User:Legate|Legate]] ([[User talk:Legate|talk]]) 14:55, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
# <span style="color:orange">(IMPEDIMENT: Talk to HotA team?)</span> (HIGH priority) Add missing pics for Factory puzzle map to [[Obelisk#Factory]]
# (HIGH priority) Some visiting schemes from [[List of adventure map objects (HotA)]] (See [[Special:WantedFiles]])
# Some of the creature dwelling pics are virtually identical to their upgraded version (e.g. [[Chapel of Stilled Voices]], [[Altar of Thought]]). Can we update these pics to show more of a difference?
# Change all [[Creatures on adventure map table (HotA)|adventure map creatures']] shadows to be semi-transparent black
# Create [[:File: Towns (11in1) (HotA).gif]] from [[:File: Towns (10in1) (HotA).gif]]
 
=== Aesthetics ===
* (none)
 
=== Template (advanced) ===
* <nowiki>{{An|Horn of the Abyss}}</nowiki> {{An|Horn of the Abyss}}, {{An|Armageddon's Blade}} link to the wrong page.
 
<span class="mw-customtoggle-LowPri" style="color:blue">'''<big>Low Priority/Backburner</big>'''</span>
<div class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed" id="mw-customcollapsible-LowPri">
 
== Low Priority/Backburner ==
=== Research/Explain game concepts ===
# I think it would be worth adding a page or two about AI behaviour in detail, such as how it affects kiting, etc. -- [[User:Csaros|Csaros]] ([[User talk:Csaros|talk]])
# I think it would be worth adding a page or two about AI behaviour in detail, such as how it affects kiting, etc. -- [[User:Csaros|Csaros]] ([[User talk:Csaros|talk]])


===Content: Page Creation/Updating===
===Content: Page Creation/Updating===
# [[Map Editor]] could use a bunch more info or link to a map editor tutorial. (In progress by [[User:Csaros|Csaros]])
====Missing Info====
# Create a [[Campaign Editor]] page.
# Single scenarios: Add all the timed/object events like seen on the campaign scenarios. (See [[All for One]])
#* Include the no-campaign map watercolor paintings (e.g. [[:File:Cmap hota 4.png]]).
# Single scenarios: Add all the timed/object events like seen on the campaign scenarios.
#* I know this is a huge task. Figured I would just put it here for if we run out of other stuff to do in the future :) --[[User:Legate|Legate]] ([[User talk:Legate|talk]]) 15:42, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
#* I know this is a huge task. Figured I would just put it here for if we run out of other stuff to do in the future :) --[[User:Legate|Legate]] ([[User talk:Legate|talk]]) 15:42, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
#* Probably want to figure out a way to automatically export/convert text into the form we want.
#* Probably want to figure out a way to automatically export/convert text into the form we want.
#* When we do this, for official scenarios, create a page for any custom heroes and add them to [[Hero biographies]].
#* Maybe focus on the story/lore-based scenarios first? (e.g. [[Trial of Flame]], [[The Mandate of Heaven]], [[Dead Man's Tales]], [[Ville'de'Porte]])
# Update [[Factory]]'s build tree to match other towns
#** There seem to be a bunch that mention named characters or places, but may not be connected to canon. --[[User:Legate|Legate]] ([[User talk:Legate|talk]]) 14:41, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
# Finish updating campaign scenario pages:
# Figure out who the narrator in the {{hc}} campaigns is.
## Add remaining right-click text to: HC, <s>HotA</s> campaigns
#* [[Old Wounds]] intro implies he is a descendant of [[Mensor]]. --[[User:Legate|Legate]] ([[User talk:Legate|talk]]) 17:28, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
##* This text can either be found in-game or under "regionText" in the json export from FreeHeroes tool.
#* I doubt he's ever been given an actual name. If you want an identifier for him, how about calling him "The Chronicler"? Since he narrates the Chronicles... --[[User:Turnam|Turnam]] ([[User talk:Turnam|talk]]) 07:32, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
## Upload/add remaining campaign maps: HC
 
# We are missing pages for a lot of campaign heroes.
====Standardization====
#* See [[Template talk:Campaign hero table]].
# Find all the random colors (e.g. "color:#d8d8eb", rgb(253, 253, 253)) then do one of the following 1) switch them to our template colors ([[Template:Color templates]]) (if they match an existing category), 2) switch them to [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:SVG_Recognized_color_keyword_names.svg | standard wiki colors]] (if they are one-off colors (e.g. when highlighting the best/worst values)), or 3) add colors to [[Template:Color templates]] and switch to using the standard template (e.g. {{tl|Blue 1}}) (if they are for a new category of pages)
#* Double-check existing pages. Status: <s>roe, ab, sod,</s> hc, <s>hota</s>
#* This is proving much harder than I thought...can anyone come up with a good string to search to find these? something like "color:#" should be fine, but search doesn't seem to like that. I can't get regex search to work either... --[[User:Legate|Legate]] ([[User talk:Legate|talk]]) 14:03, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
#* Making short pages is fine...just go to that table, then to the scenario(s) the hero is found in. Search for their name and add all info you find to the new hero page!
# Consider standardizing buildings to use templates seen on [[Skeleton Transformer]].
# Add missing heroes to [[Hero biographies]].
# Go through the campaign videos and copy them into an "Appearance" section of the pages of the heroes/creatures/etc. that they depict. (See [[Behemoth]]).
#* See [[Template talk:Campaign hero table]].
#* Also go through manuals and copy Dev Concept Art to proper pages.
#** e.g. [[Devil]] - [[Restoration of Erathia Manual Page 56]], [[Angel]] - p87
#** Look at pics at bottom of categories (e.g. [[:Category:Restoration of Erathia Manual]]) to easily find pages with concept art.
# Go through all user commentary to standardize all language and make it grammatically sound.
 
==== Desired Updates ====
# Write tips on [[:category:campaign scenarios|campaign scenario]] pages ([[Special:Contributions/212.112.111.20|212.112.111.20]])
#* Sometimes there are tips on the main campaign pages under User Commentary. (e.g. [[Dragon's Blood]])
#* I've noticed there are a bunch of strategy/tips on https://mightandmagic.fandom.com/wiki/Tunnels_of_Ice. Should/Can we cite/copy that info here or leave a link to them?
#** The <i>CC BY-SA</i> seems like a very open license. I would just add attribution using the appropriate link (to the edit summary)
# Add banned spells/artifacts/heroes/secondary skills (except banned for default) to campaign/single scenario pages.
 
==== Desired Additions ====
# Concept art, pre-release screenshots, and other such promotional material.
#* Here are some websites/galleries we can use to add material from: [[File:Hero Cosmos small.gif|link=user:phasma|→ Phasma]] 17:59, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
#** https://tcrf.net/Prerelease:Heroes_of_Might_and_Magic_III:_The_Restoration_of_Erathia
#** https://h3.heroes.net.pl/galeria/modele-3d
#** https://www.h3.acidcave.net/galeria_i_filmy_oryginalne_hd.html
#** George Almond's portfolio: [https://www.artstation.com/universalexport/albums/838900 Heroes sketchbook] & [https://www.artstation.com/universalexport/albums/841166 Hero portraits]
#** Phelan Sykes' portfolio is dead, some content may be salvageable through the Internet Archive: [https://web.archive.org/web/20050507155014/http://phelansykes.com/Heroes3.htm Heroes 3] and [https://web.archive.org/web/20050507155046/http://phelansykes.com/Heroes3x.htm Heroes 3 expansions]
#** Came across this...we are missing some of it from [[Unused content]]. [https://tcrf.net/Heroes_of_Might_and_Magic_III:_The_Restoration_of_Erathia] --[[User:Legate|Legate]] ([[User talk:Legate|talk]]) 13:29, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
# Developer interviews and other articles with important information about the game and its universe.
#* (For this and previous bullet) A lot of this material is now lost or hard to find, and this will only get worse as time passes. Some other wikis for other franchises have been pretty good at safekeeping such documents (I'm thinking for example of the UESP for Elder Scrolls games). --[[User:Turnam|Turnam]] ([[User talk:Turnam|talk]]) 16:51, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
# Make maps to show attacks during the wars/campaigns. Use campaign maps + colored arrows to show aggression.


===File upload/editing===
===File upload/editing===
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# Add pics of the buttons<s>/menus</s> from the Map Editor and Campaign Editor. That way [[User:Csaros|Csaros]] doesn't have to just have a wall of text on [[Map Editor]]!
#* I've already uploaded a ton of appropriate pictures a few days ago, just didn't have time to place them in the Map Editor entry itself. I'll gladly use some help with them. The Map Editor file is also not finished, but I should be done with it soon.  -- [[User:Csaros|Csaros]] ([[User talk:Csaros|talk]]) 21:41, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
#* I sorted most of them. I still think it would be helpful to have the pics of the toolbar/mode bar buttons to add to the appropriate sections --[[User:Legate|Legate]] ([[User talk:Legate|talk]]) 21:28, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
# Replace Town Build Trees with interactable build trees (similar coding to the main page with visuals linking to appropriate objects) to easily navigate objects from the Build Tree itself. - [[User:Csaros|Csaros]] ([[User talk:Csaros|talk]])
#* I think that is a pretty cool idea. Sounds like a job for [[User:Phasma|Phasma]]! --[[User:Legate|Legate]] ([[User talk:Legate|talk]]) 18:12, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
#** I can certainly give that a go, but I have no idea how the arrows would work in that case. This is definitely a fun idea but a long-term one that might have to wait until a solution for that is found. [[File:Hero Cosmos small.gif|link=special:contributions/phasma|→ Phasma]] 00:03, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
#** Did you ever get your image map thing figured out? Maybe this would work well with that (so only the building pics are clickable and the background/lines are not)? --[[User:Legate|Legate]] ([[User talk:Legate|talk]]) 21:31, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
#* Maybe use the pictures/names found in the town hall build screen? Could change the background on the text to match our current scheme (i.e. green=dwellings, teal=unique, red=fortifications, etc.) --[[User:Legate|Legate]] ([[User talk:Legate|talk]]) 22:24, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
# Most (All?) of the RoE campaign videos have black bars on the top/bottom. None of the other videos have that. Is there a way to remove the black bars? --[[User:Legate|Legate]] ([[User talk:Legate|talk]]) 21:58, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
#* I will probably need to re-upload all the videos once Terra changes the quality settings to not allow low quality videos. When this happens I will make sure my script removes the black bars before uploading. –[[user_talk:imahero|imahero]] 22:04, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
# [[Talk:Unused buttons]]? –[[user_talk:imahero|imahero]] 23:37, 5 February 2024 (UTC)


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#* I suppose it would probably be easier to build/maintain as a [[module:an|lua script]]. –[[user_talk:imahero|imahero]] 22:23, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
#* I suppose it would probably be easier to build/maintain as a [[module:an|lua script]]. –[[user_talk:imahero|imahero]] 22:23, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
#* [[File:Armor of the Damned_am-artif.gif|{{#invoke:an|hover|Armor of the Damned}}]] [[File:Horn of the Abyss_am-artif.gif|{{#invoke:an|hover|Horn of the Abyss}}]] [[File:Armageddon's Blade_am-artif.gif|{{#invoke:an|hover|Armageddon's Blade}}]] –[[user_talk:imahero|imahero]] 22:23, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
#* [[File:Armor of the Damned_am-artif.gif|{{#invoke:an|hover|Armor of the Damned}}]] [[File:Horn of the Abyss_am-artif.gif|{{#invoke:an|hover|Horn of the Abyss}}]] [[File:Armageddon's Blade_am-artif.gif|{{#invoke:an|hover|Armageddon's Blade}}]] –[[user_talk:imahero|imahero]] 22:23, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
# Ok, here with another pie-in-the sky/probably a ton of work idea. For campaign scenarios, the coordinates located on the pages are generally helpful only if you have the scenario editor open (and have the campaign broken into scenarios). I think it would be possible to make a map that has things like the seer's huts labelled with numerical overlays. ([[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Overlay]] - Brisbane example). We may even be able to do this somewhat programmatically - make a template that takes in the map file and coordinates for what we want to label. Since the size of the map is known (e.g. Medium is 72x72), then a hut at (50, 15, 0) would be 50/72 of the way across the image in the x-direction and 15/72 of the way down in the y-direction, in the upper-world. --[[User:Legate|Legate]] ([[User talk:Legate|talk]]) 02:46, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
#* So as not to clutter things up or increase loading time, we could only show this map on some kind of button press.
#* We should already have the tools for this. We already have the map files and coordinates, and we already used overlays in [[Template:BonusCr]].
# Consider making extra templates to clean up the scenario pages (e.g. Some kind of location/message template) (See [[Template:TErow]] for example)
#* Also switch templates to the correct color palette (See [[Template:Color templates]])
# [[Template:SmCost]] does not work when placed in the "effect=" parameter of [[Template:TErow]].
#* NOTE: Also happens in the "rew=" param or [[Template:SorQrow]].
#* Doesn't seem to work properly when it is the first thing in a parameter. WORKAROUND: add <nowiki>"{{-}}"</nowiki> before using the template --[[User:Legate|Legate]] ([[User talk:Legate|talk]]) 19:47, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
# Make a template to standardize the maps on the country pages.


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# Improve video thumbnails. With swapping to the videos over the still images, it is harder to see what is happening without clicking on the videos.
# Looking at the campaign videos again, I don't think we fully solved the problem. Some videos look good, but at least [[Warlords of the Wasteland]] still looks bad.
#* The thumbnails for the videos are lower quality/resolution than then png files. Is it possible to use the png files as the thumbnail for the video?
#* Maybe was an issue of the cc or something? I deleted it to check. Maybe undelete if it doesn't actually fix the problem. –[[user_talk:imahero|imahero]] 23:10, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
#** This is quite unfortunate. Why the developers of TimedMediaHandler decided to not include an option to generate high quality thumbnails I have no idea. File a bug report [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/maniphest/task/edit/form/1/?projects=timedmediahandler here]. –[[user_talk:imahero|imahero]] 20:31, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
#* [[Dead or Alive]] epilogue video is currently the one voiced in Russian.
#** For me at least, the default playback for these videos is sd instead of the webm source. When I switch, the quality improves noticeably. Might this be related? Can we set the default playback to webm source? --[[User:Legate|Legate]] ([[User talk:Legate|talk]]) 21:21, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
#** Are there actual english versions? Link to youtube video of them maybe? –[[user_talk:imahero|imahero]] 23:10, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
#** I didn't see any option to change the default, so I messaged Terra to ask him to remove the option make the lower encodes in the first place (which there was an option for) so hopefully that will fix it. –[[user_talk:imahero|imahero]] 22:13, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
#** I don't think there are, but maybe use the version with no narration? --[[User:Legate|Legate]] ([[User talk:Legate|talk]]) 13:09, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
# The idea of "clickable regions" of pictures has gotten mentioned a few times. Research if/how this is possible. --[[User:Legate|Legate]] ([[User talk:Legate|talk]]) 20:01, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
#* Vision: Certain regions of an image could be configured to light up & link to another page like the main menu.
#* Pages to modify if implemented:
#** [[Timeline]]: Link to all the referenced pages.
#** [[Antagarich]]: Add clickable maps to move between the location pages.
#* The usual way to add clickable maps for a MediaWiki is to install the [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ImageMap ImageMap] extension. I don't see it already [[Special:Version|here]], so that's a topic for the wiki owner.
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==Notes==
==Notes==

Latest revision as of 17:58, 24 September 2024

General/Ongoing[edit | hide | hide all]

  1. Help clear the Maintenance Reports for unused/broken/wanted items!
  2. Check out and verify Trivia#Unverified Claims
  3. Look for pages that need help and report them here (e.g. unreadable color scheme in "Aesthetics", missing info in "Missing Info")
    • Also report if data for an expansion is shown improperly (e.g. HotA data is seen when HotA is disabled via the switch on the top or left). Report these issues here in "Content Switches".
  4. Use {{unk}} to mark text we need to fill in. That way all the unknown text will link to that template!
    • Also, help clear the pages linking to the template by filling in the missing info.
  5. Record any in-game bugs found here: List of bugs (HotA)

Specific[edit | hide]

Research/Explain game concepts (HIGH priority)[edit | hide]

  1. Breath Attack could use a diagram of how it works (specifically when attacking straight up or down)
    • I found this, but I have no idea the accuracy or completeness. --Legate (talk) 03:43, 8 December 2023 (UTC)
      • This may be affected by Mechanics and Engineers as these are the first 1-tile creatures with a breath attack.
        • ANECDOTE: I did notice a...bug? nuance?...with attacker's Engineers attacking in the down-left direction vs. a 2-tile enemy not hitting the expected second tile. --Legate (talk) 16:11, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
          • Actually, this is related to the pic just above. In the pic, top row, second from the left, I expected there to be a 2nd red arrow going in the down-left direction. The diagram does not have one, which matched the in-game behavior I saw. --Legate (talk) 15:32, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
          • There is a bug (perhaps intended) that if a Mechanic attacks a two hex creature (usually I found it when attacking from the hex right above or right below the 2-hex monster) with the sword-arrow pointing to the direction from which she came to attack, the fire attack follows the direction of her movement and not the direction of the sword-arrow. - Csaros
          • This behavior matches the picture above, which was made a while ago...implying that this bug exists for dragons as well. Testing needed. --Legate (talk) 18:13, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
  2. Power rating: Does the strongest hero calculation evaluate garrisoned heroes? --Legate (talk) 20:13, 16 September 2024 (UTC)

Content: Page Creation/Updating[edit | hide]

Main Page[edit | hide]

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Missing Info[edit | hide]

  1. Finish making pages for everything referenced in the campaign missions. Remaining: Barsolar‏‎, Hemoross‏‎, Necromancer's Guild‏‎, King Eldrich Parson‏‎
  2. (IMPEDIMENT: Talk to HotA team) I can't find any info about the following items: --Legate (talk) 00:46, 22 September 2024 (UTC)
  3. List of adventure map objects (HotA) missing some RMG values.
    • I'm not sure how to look these values up. Any pointers? --Legate (talk) 01:34, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
  4. List of wars in Enroth (world) - Missing some "War of the Dove and Crow" info.
  5. Flesh out pages for all Jadame regions and all Enroth (continent) regions.
    • Include some basic info and a map where possible.

Standardization[edit | hide]

  1. Add story info to hero pages.

Fix (HIGH priority)[edit | hide]

  1. The Shores of Hell: Update map screenshots
  2. Timeline: Terror of the Seas level 1 (Prisoner of Doom) mentions on Day 1 that the Festival of Life is over.

Double-check[edit | hide]

  1. Warlords of the Wasteland scenarios don't carry over the 1st most powerful hero?
  2. Both carry-over heroes are the 1st most powerful hero? (probably just add some note):
  3. Dragon's Blood (campaign scenario): Should the carryover 2 strongest heroes actually be Valita + 1st strongest hero?
  4. Map Editor, Map Editor - Objects pages have some "unk" references. Figure out if they should be fixed or removed.
    • All unnecessary references on the pages above removed. Two remaining need a double-check. - Csaros (talk) 09:24, 23 September 2024 (UTC)

Content Switches[edit | hide]

  1. Hide all HotA / DoR content when not enabled.
    • For table rows, just add this to the row: |- class='onlyhota'
      • ERROR: This seems to erroneously negate style settings for the row. --Legate (talk) 17:13, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
    • For most other content just use: {{showwithhota|content}}
    • In some circumstances, you might need to use: <span class='onlyhota'>content</span>
    • See User:Imahero/hide for more examples.
  2. Combine all templates/pages with (HotA) into single unified templates/pages.

New Features (in progress)[edit | hide]

  1. Maps (To Do list):
    • Questions:
      1. Does Land of the Giants belong to AvLee, Eeofol or Nighon?
        • Nighon: The Antagarich physical map colors it like Nighon.
          • This agrees with Antagarich#Geography that Turnam just added. This states: "The Dungeon Overlords rule the eastern shores of the Erathian continent, as well as the Nighon islands off the coast."
        • Eeofol: World on Fire intro makes it seem like part of the halfling homeland.
        • AvLee: What we currently have on the maps.
        • Aren't "Eeofol" and "Land of the Giants" synonyms anyway? In MM7, the "tunnels to Eeofol" lead you to the Land of the Giants region. --Turnam (talk) 08:43, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
        • RESOLUTION: Land of the Giants was part of the halfling homeland of Eeofol before the Night of Shooting Stars. It seems as though when the Kreegans conquered Eeofol, Nighon opportunistically grabbed it to create a foothold on the main continent. Since our maps are based ~1167 AS, lets change it to Nighon and add some explanation about this. --Legate (talk) 13:24, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
      2. I think the Contested Lands section is not entirely accurate. I think some of the regions listed may actually be part of Erathia.
    • Still need:
      1. Countries: Regna, Terra Nova
      2. Make a modified version of each country map that shows the country in question with the regions written in? --Legate (talk) 04:50, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
  2. List of games set in Enroth (world) - This could use vetting/additions by someone who know the lore well. FirePaladin2, maybe :)? --Legate (talk) 18:40, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
  3. Update Town building trees. Remaining:
  4. Hex Editing - Guide‎‎
    • This is all phenomenal info! Good job condensing it all to one page. --Legate (talk) 13:16, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
    • Are there any pictures that would add to the readability of this page? Maybe screenshots of the hex editor at specific locations?
    • Maybe it would be helpful to color the text to show how it line up better? Example:
      • TT000000 ID000000 AA000000 DD000000 DM000000 U4000000 U5000000
        • TT - item 1
        • ID - item 2
        • AA - item 3
        • DD - item 4
        • DM - item 5
        • U4 - item 6
        • U5 - item 7
          • That's actually a great idea. I think color-coding it would make it much easier to find appropriate explanations. At the same time, I don't know if there's a point in screenshoting the hex editor. I can screenshot the editor or the results of modding the game, but idk how that helps understand the coding.
            • At the same time, I wish someone else who knows more than I do could help me with what I'm missing - f.e. Resource Silos, Mana Generator, etc. - Csaros (talk)
  5. H3CSS Graphical overhaul for the wiki

Desired Additions[edit | hide]

  1. Create a Campaign Editor page.
  2. (IMPEDIMENT: Finish "Wanted" pages) Make a supporting characters page. (See Category: Supporting character). Have sortable columns for name/affiliation/species.

File upload/editing[edit | hide]

  NOTES
    • In a command terminal run: "oxipng -o 6 -s -r ." to losslessly compress all png images: github.com/shssoichiro/oxipng
    • Animated png files will play on pages if they are full size. Animated gif files will play regardless.

  1. Add pics of the toolstrip buttons for the Map Editor and Campaign Editor.
  2. (IMPEDIMENT: NEEDS H4) I think we should add the intro video of Heroes 4 to The Reckoning with a note. Although this isn't part of Heroes 3, that video is really the final event in the Heroes 3 timeline/story. --Legate (talk) 14:55, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
  3. (IMPEDIMENT: Talk to HotA team?) (HIGH priority) Add missing pics for Factory puzzle map to Obelisk#Factory
  4. (HIGH priority) Some visiting schemes from List of adventure map objects (HotA) (See Special:WantedFiles)
  5. Some of the creature dwelling pics are virtually identical to their upgraded version (e.g. Chapel of Stilled Voices, Altar of Thought). Can we update these pics to show more of a difference?
  6. Change all adventure map creatures' shadows to be semi-transparent black
  7. Create File: Towns (11in1) (HotA).gif from File: Towns (10in1) (HotA).gif

Aesthetics[edit | hide]

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Template (advanced)[edit | hide]

Low Priority/Backburner

Low Priority/Backburner[edit | hide]

Research/Explain game concepts[edit | hide]

  1. I think it would be worth adding a page or two about AI behaviour in detail, such as how it affects kiting, etc. -- Csaros (talk)

Content: Page Creation/Updating[edit | hide]

Missing Info[edit | hide]

  1. Single scenarios: Add all the timed/object events like seen on the campaign scenarios. (See All for One)
    • I know this is a huge task. Figured I would just put it here for if we run out of other stuff to do in the future :) --Legate (talk) 15:42, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
    • Probably want to figure out a way to automatically export/convert text into the form we want.
    • Maybe focus on the story/lore-based scenarios first? (e.g. Trial of Flame, The Mandate of Heaven, Dead Man's Tales, Ville'de'Porte)
      • There seem to be a bunch that mention named characters or places, but may not be connected to canon. --Legate (talk) 14:41, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
  2. Figure out who the narrator in the Heroes Chronicles campaigns is.
    • Old Wounds intro implies he is a descendant of Mensor. --Legate (talk) 17:28, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
    • I doubt he's ever been given an actual name. If you want an identifier for him, how about calling him "The Chronicler"? Since he narrates the Chronicles... --Turnam (talk) 07:32, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

Standardization[edit | hide]

  1. Find all the random colors (e.g. "color:#d8d8eb", rgb(253, 253, 253)) then do one of the following 1) switch them to our template colors (Template:Color templates) (if they match an existing category), 2) switch them to [| standard wiki colors] (if they are one-off colors (e.g. when highlighting the best/worst values)), or 3) add colors to Template:Color templates and switch to using the standard template (e.g. {{Blue 1}}) (if they are for a new category of pages)
    • This is proving much harder than I thought...can anyone come up with a good string to search to find these? something like "color:#" should be fine, but search doesn't seem to like that. I can't get regex search to work either... --Legate (talk) 14:03, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
  2. Consider standardizing buildings to use templates seen on Skeleton Transformer.
  3. Go through the campaign videos and copy them into an "Appearance" section of the pages of the heroes/creatures/etc. that they depict. (See Behemoth).
  4. Go through all user commentary to standardize all language and make it grammatically sound.

Desired Updates[edit | hide]

  1. Write tips on campaign scenario pages (212.112.111.20)
    • Sometimes there are tips on the main campaign pages under User Commentary. (e.g. Dragon's Blood)
    • I've noticed there are a bunch of strategy/tips on https://mightandmagic.fandom.com/wiki/Tunnels_of_Ice. Should/Can we cite/copy that info here or leave a link to them?
      • The CC BY-SA seems like a very open license. I would just add attribution using the appropriate link (to the edit summary)
  2. Add banned spells/artifacts/heroes/secondary skills (except banned for default) to campaign/single scenario pages.

Desired Additions[edit | hide]

  1. Concept art, pre-release screenshots, and other such promotional material.
  2. Developer interviews and other articles with important information about the game and its universe.
    • (For this and previous bullet) A lot of this material is now lost or hard to find, and this will only get worse as time passes. Some other wikis for other franchises have been pretty good at safekeeping such documents (I'm thinking for example of the UESP for Elder Scrolls games). --Turnam (talk) 16:51, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
  3. Make maps to show attacks during the wars/campaigns. Use campaign maps + colored arrows to show aggression.

File upload/editing[edit | hide]

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Template (advanced)[edit | hide]

  1. I wonder if it would be possible to change the hover-over text for {{An}}/{{Cn}}/{{Hn}} to be what the effect/stats/specialty is? --Legate (talk) 13:55, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
    • Off the top of my head, I thought of a massive switch statement in the template, but that would be a pain to build/maintain and may slow down the page loads.
    • I suppose it would probably be easier to build/maintain as a lua script. –imahero 22:23, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
    • All opponents have these spells effective on them for fifty turns: Slow, Curse, Weakness, and Misfortune. Component effects: +3 to Attack and Defense, +2 to Spell Power and Knowledge. After a stack of living creatures is slain, a stack of Fangarms will rise in their stead and will stay loyal to the hero after the battle concludes. Armageddon's Bladeimahero 22:23, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
  2. Ok, here with another pie-in-the sky/probably a ton of work idea. For campaign scenarios, the coordinates located on the pages are generally helpful only if you have the scenario editor open (and have the campaign broken into scenarios). I think it would be possible to make a map that has things like the seer's huts labelled with numerical overlays. ([[2]] - Brisbane example). We may even be able to do this somewhat programmatically - make a template that takes in the map file and coordinates for what we want to label. Since the size of the map is known (e.g. Medium is 72x72), then a hut at (50, 15, 0) would be 50/72 of the way across the image in the x-direction and 15/72 of the way down in the y-direction, in the upper-world. --Legate (talk) 02:46, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
    • So as not to clutter things up or increase loading time, we could only show this map on some kind of button press.
    • We should already have the tools for this. We already have the map files and coordinates, and we already used overlays in Template:BonusCr.
  3. Consider making extra templates to clean up the scenario pages (e.g. Some kind of location/message template) (See Template:TErow for example)
  4. Template:SmCost does not work when placed in the "effect=" parameter of Template:TErow.
    • NOTE: Also happens in the "rew=" param or Template:SorQrow.
    • Doesn't seem to work properly when it is the first thing in a parameter. WORKAROUND: add "{{-}}" before using the template --Legate (talk) 19:47, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
  5. Make a template to standardize the maps on the country pages.

Wiki settings (advanced)[edit | hide]

  1. Looking at the campaign videos again, I don't think we fully solved the problem. Some videos look good, but at least Warlords of the Wasteland still looks bad.
    • Maybe was an issue of the cc or something? I deleted it to check. Maybe undelete if it doesn't actually fix the problem. –imahero 23:10, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
    • Dead or Alive epilogue video is currently the one voiced in Russian.
      • Are there actual english versions? Link to youtube video of them maybe? –imahero 23:10, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
      • I don't think there are, but maybe use the version with no narration? --Legate (talk) 13:09, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
  2. The idea of "clickable regions" of pictures has gotten mentioned a few times. Research if/how this is possible. --Legate (talk) 20:01, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
    • Vision: Certain regions of an image could be configured to light up & link to another page like the main menu.
    • Pages to modify if implemented:
      • Timeline: Link to all the referenced pages.
      • Antagarich: Add clickable maps to move between the location pages.
    • The usual way to add clickable maps for a MediaWiki is to install the ImageMap extension. I don't see it already here, so that's a topic for the wiki owner.

Notes[edit | hide]

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