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# [[Timeline]] <span style="color:orange">(IMPEDIMENT: Wait double-check to be finished)</span> | # [[Timeline]] <span style="color:orange">(IMPEDIMENT: Wait double-check to be finished)</span> | ||
#* NOTE: I'm currently in the middle of a deep-dive double-check of the timeline (feel free to help!). See [[Talk:Timeline]] for the work-in-progress. --[[User:Legate|Legate]] ([[User talk:Legate|talk]]) 19:53, 12 December 2024 (UTC) | #* NOTE: I'm currently in the middle of a deep-dive double-check of the timeline (feel free to help!). See [[Talk:Timeline]] for the work-in-progress. --[[User:Legate|Legate]] ([[User talk:Legate|talk]]) 19:53, 12 December 2024 (UTC) | ||
#** First pass of notes complete. I think I have looked at everything available within Homm3. Let me know if you find any errors or more info! --[[User:Legate|Legate]] ([[User talk:Legate|talk]]) 16:25, 16 December 2024 (UTC) | #** Status: First pass of notes complete. I think I have looked at everything available within Homm3. Let me know if you find any errors or more info! --[[User:Legate|Legate]] ([[User talk:Legate|talk]]) 16:25, 16 December 2024 (UTC) | ||
#** To Do: Look at info from other M&M games. | #** To Do: Look at info from other M&M games. | ||
#* [[ | #** To Do (when done): Update [[List of wars in Enroth (world)]], [[List of games set in Enroth (world)]] | ||
# [[Template:Spell probability table]] uses a rough calculation for spell chance. Use the more detailed equation detailed on the page and update the numbers (see talk page for details). | # [[Template:Spell probability table]] uses a rough calculation for spell chance. Use the more detailed equation detailed on the page and update the numbers (see talk page for details). | ||
Revision as of 13:50, 17 December 2024
General/Ongoing
- Help clear the Maintenance Reports for unused/broken/wanted items!
- Check out and verify Trivia#Unverified Claims
- Look for pages that need help and report them here (e.g. unreadable color scheme in "Aesthetics", missing info in "Missing Info")
- Also report if data for an expansion is shown improperly (e.g. HotA functional data is seen when HotA is disabled via the switch on the top or left (Lore should always be visible)). Report these issues here in "Content Switches".
- Use {{unk}} to mark text we need to fill in. That way all the unknown text will link to that template!
- Also, help clear the pages linking to the template by filling in the missing info.
- Record any in-game bugs found here: List of bugs (HotA)
Specific
Research/Explain game concepts (HIGH priority)
- Breath Attack could use a diagram of how it works (specifically when attacking straight up or down)
- See Talk: Breath attack for discussion.
- "RMG Value" is referenced on List of adventure map objects and AI value, but never explained. Maybe add explanation to Random Map? Add links from these pages when done.
- Champion's jousting ability - I think this increases damage by the distance between the starting/ending hex and NOT the distance travelled by the unit during the attack?
- If it is the travelled distance, I think there is a bug in the damage calculation for the Hota UI expected damage tooltip.
Content: Page Creation/Updating
Discussion
- The Story: Should we keep this? This seems to be a small summary of Might and Magic VII: For Blood and Honor and doesn't really add much to the Lost Lore. Thoughts? --Legate (talk) 19:46, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
- Maybe paraphrase/reference this on List of games set in Enroth (world)?
Main Page
- (none)
Missing Info
- (IMPEDIMENT: Talk to HotA team) I can't find any info about the following items: --Legate (talk) 00:46, 22 September 2024 (UTC)
- "Kreegan's Horns" - Frontier
- "Tuunbaq" - Frontier
- "Western Elves" - Dead or Alive
- List of adventure map objects: Abandoned Mine missing RMG value.
- Flesh out pages for all Jadame regions and all Enroth (continent) regions.
- Include some basic info and a map where possible.
Standardization
- Add story info to hero pages.
- Standard heroes. Complete with exceptions:
- Factory: Henrietta,
Sam,Wynona, Any updates from Homecoming (HotA)
- Factory: Henrietta,
- Campaign heroes with profiles: See Template:Campaign hero (profile) table. Status:
Campaign heroes with portraits: See Template:Campaign hero (pic) table.Reskins: See list in Template:Campaign hero table (reskins).
- Standard heroes. Complete with exceptions:
- Go through all artifact pages and remove information duplicated by the body text and templates on the right.
Fix (HIGH priority)
- The Shores of Hell: Update map screenshots
- Timeline (IMPEDIMENT: Wait double-check to be finished)
- NOTE: I'm currently in the middle of a deep-dive double-check of the timeline (feel free to help!). See Talk:Timeline for the work-in-progress. --Legate (talk) 19:53, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
- Status: First pass of notes complete. I think I have looked at everything available within Homm3. Let me know if you find any errors or more info! --Legate (talk) 16:25, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
- To Do: Look at info from other M&M games.
- To Do (when done): Update List of wars in Enroth (world), List of games set in Enroth (world)
- NOTE: I'm currently in the middle of a deep-dive double-check of the timeline (feel free to help!). See Talk:Timeline for the work-in-progress. --Legate (talk) 19:53, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
- Template:Spell probability table uses a rough calculation for spell chance. Use the more detailed equation detailed on the page and update the numbers (see talk page for details).
Double-check
- Map Editor - Objects page mentions SoD bugs when specifying artifact / resource guards. Did these bugs actually occur in SoD? Have they been fixed completely in Hota? - Csaros (talk)
- The Courtier mentions "Zoological Accounts" as supposedly another tale by Xanthor. Is this 1) Another Lost Lore story we don't have yet, 2) a story that was never published, or 3) A reference to the faction descriptions currently attributed to Marcus Finch?
- List of adventure map objects: I assume that some of these objects got added with ab/sod? If so, mark the source accordingly.
- List of adventure map objects: Keymaster's tent has various RMG values for HotA. What are these referring to? Do different colors spawn at different rates? Is this even accurate?
- NOTE: ShushMaster added these values on Sept. 20, 2018 (in case that helps)
- Josephine's starting creatures in SoD. For all other default heroes, the 2nd stack holds to a certain variable range for creature type. I suspect her second stacks should be 2-3 Stone Golems instead of just 2. --Legate (talk) 14:30, 6 December 2024 (UTC)
New Features (in progress)
- Maps (Lead: Legate)
- Questions:
- Does Land of the Giants belong to AvLee, Eeofol or Nighon?
- Nighon: The Antagarich physical map colors it like Nighon.
- This agrees with Antagarich#Geography that Turnam just added. This states: "The Dungeon Overlords rule the eastern shores of the Erathian continent, as well as the Nighon islands off the coast."
- Eeofol: World on Fire intro makes it seem like part of the halfling homeland.
- AvLee: What we currently have on the maps.
- RESOLUTION: Land of the Giants was part of the halfling homeland of Eeofol before the Night of Shooting Stars. It seems as though when the Kreegans conquered Eeofol, Nighon opportunistically grabbed it to create a foothold on the main continent. Since our maps are based ~1167 AS, lets change it to Nighon and add some explanation about this. --Legate (talk) 13:24, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- Nighon: The Antagarich physical map colors it like Nighon.
- I think the Contested Lands section is not entirely accurate. I think some of the regions listed may actually be part of Erathia.
- Forestdale (region) should be part of Erathia (See Talk:Contested Lands). Pages/maps need to be updated.
- Possibly move regions to Contested Lands. Consider: Marble Garden, Forestdon, Forestbury, Forestlow, Strongwillow, Woodgrove.
- If we move these areas, they should be double-listed in Erathia and Contested Lands as both are true over the course of the game.
- RESOLUTION: It seems like most of the AvLee-Erathia border was considered "Contested Lands" at some point. Only a portion of this region broke off from Erathia to form the nation of the "Contested Lands". Change maps/listings appropriately.
- Does Land of the Giants belong to AvLee, Eeofol or Nighon?
- Still need:
- Countries: Regna, Terra Nova
- Make a modified version of each country map that shows the country in question with the regions written in? --Legate (talk) 04:50, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
- Questions:
- List of games set in Enroth (world) (Lead: None)
- Update Town building trees. (Lead: Phasma)
- Hex Editing - Guide (Lead: Csaros)
- This is all phenomenal info! Good job condensing it all to one page. --Legate (talk) 13:16, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
- Are there any pictures that would add to the readability of this page? Maybe screenshots of the hex editor at specific locations?
- Maybe it would be helpful to color the text to show how it line up better? Example:
- TT000000 ID000000 AA000000 DD000000 DM000000 U4000000 U5000000
- TT - item 1
- ID - item 2
- AA - item 3
- DD - item 4
- DM - item 5
- U4 - item 6
- U5 - item 7
- That's actually a great idea. I think color-coding it would make it much easier to find appropriate explanations. At the same time, I don't know if there's a point in screenshoting the hex editor. I can screenshot the editor or the results of modding the game, but idk how that helps understand the coding.
- TT000000 ID000000 AA000000 DD000000 DM000000 U4000000 U5000000
- Prepare a detailed table for heroes, creatures, spells etc. with reference IDS and all relevant offsets.
- H3CSS Graphical overhaul for the wiki. (Lead: None)
- Create a Campaign Editor page. (Lead: Csaros)
- Include the no-campaign map watercolor paintings (e.g. File:Cmap hota 4.png).
- Status: Started adding maps. Need to check what is available in the campaign editor and correct this page/add captions. I am not sure if we have all of the actual maps uploaded or not. --Legate (talk) 14:05, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
- Just went into the campaign editor, here are the maps we are missing:
- Song for the Father
- Long Live the Queen (although it's a 3-map copy of Dungeons and Devils)
- Long Live the King (near-identical to Song for the Father)
- Islands (it contains 3 islands, first two are star with 4-points shaped the last one is squarish; I think it may be Foolhardy Waywardness map, but I may misremember it)
- Unholy Alliance
- Terror of the Seas (4 islands + what appears to be Erathia)
- Horn of the Abyss
- Just went into the campaign editor, here are the maps we are missing:
- Status: Started adding maps. Need to check what is available in the campaign editor and correct this page/add captions. I am not sure if we have all of the actual maps uploaded or not. --Legate (talk) 14:05, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
- Include the no-campaign map watercolor paintings (e.g. File:Cmap hota 4.png).
Desired Additions
- Make a supporting characters page. (See Category: Supporting character). Have sortable columns for name/affiliation/species.
- Create Lore page that will fit all main information and links to all detailed pages on the lore (we can include chronology, politics, Lost Lore, etc. into this). - Csaros (talk)
- Are you envisioning something different than the Lore tab on the main menu? --Legate (talk) 13:46, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, something more akin to f.e. acidcave's Ashan lore page, which explains in details the entire timeline, plot of each campaign, notes on all important backstory events mention; it also covers what happened to most of relevant campaign characters at every point (here the Queen was born, here Sandro's parents was killed, here Markal became his student etc.) all in one nice to read text. I wish something like this existed for H3; I, sadly, don't know enough about heroes 3 lore to write it (and then I wouldn't wish for it). - Csaros (talk)
- Are you envisioning something different than the Lore tab on the main menu? --Legate (talk) 13:46, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
File upload/editing
NOTES
• In a command terminal run: "oxipng -o 6 -s -r ." to losslessly compress all png images: github.com/shssoichiro/oxipng
• Animated png files will play on pages if they are full size. Animated gif files will play regardless.
- Add pics of the toolstrip buttons for the Map Editor and Campaign Editor.
- (IMPEDIMENT: NEEDS H4) I think we should add the intro video of Heroes 4 to The Reckoning with a note. Although this isn't part of Heroes 3, that video is really the final event in the Heroes 3 timeline/story. --Legate (talk) 14:55, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
- (IMPEDIMENT: Talk to HotA team?) (HIGH priority) Add missing pics for Factory puzzle map to Obelisk#Factory
- (HIGH priority) Some visiting schemes from List of adventure map objects (See Special:WantedFiles)
- Some of the creature dwelling pics are virtually identical to their upgraded version (e.g. Chapel of Stilled Voices, Altar of Thought). Can we update these pics to show more of a difference?
- Change all Adventure map creature sprites shadows to be semi-transparent black
- Template: H2 looks a little strange with the hero pictures being slightly different than the class pictures (they have a border). Update the class pictures to match.
- Add pictures of the Letters to Catherine from the mm6 manual. These can be found with a quick Google search. Add to the Roland page once uploaded.
- Add pictures of the Diaries of Archibald from the mm7 manual. These can be found with a quick Google search. Add to the Archibald page once uploaded.
- Add pictures of the Day of the Destroyer tale from the mm8 manual. This can be found with a quick Google search. Add to the Escaton page once uploaded.
Aesthetics
- (none)
Template (advanced)
- Template:Artifact sidebar: Odd behavior when disabling, then enabling content switches. Hota rows are shown when when should be suppressed.
- Content Switching error: The table |- class='onlyhota' seems to erroneously negate style settings for the row (style settings for the cell still work fine). --Legate (talk) 17:13, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
- Which file holds the logic for the class content switches? I can't find it. I think it is one of the backend wiki files? --Legate (talk) 18:54, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
- Pages to fix once this error is solved:
- Remove duplicates from all class tables (e.g. Template:Knight hero table) using {{Campaign hero table (profile)|Knight}}
- Template: Spell probability table
- Template:CrComprow
Low Priority/Backburner
Notes
- Use "#*" to add a comment to an item without breaking the numbering.
- Use <li value="your_number_here"></li> to restart a numeric list if there are breaks in between the numbers (e.g. comments).
- For discussion surrounding current changes, use Changelog Chat.
How To
Content Switches
Hide all HotA / DoR game content (not lore content) when not enabled:
• For table rows, just add this to the row: |- class='onlyhota'
• For most other content just use: {{showwithhota|content}}. Can also use {{swh|HotaOnlyContent|SodOnlyContent}}.
• In some circumstances, you might need to use: <span class='onlyhota'>content</span>
• For lists, use: <ul class='onlyhota'><li>item</li><li>other item</li></ul>. For numbered lists, swap "ul" to "ol".
• See User:Imahero/hide for more examples.