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#* Additionally, looking good and stylish is far better than looking "okay" - the easy-to-create classic menus are okay and they serve their purpose, especially now that they're correctly styled with the new CSS, but they are the bare minimum: functional, legible, easy to interact with, and stylistically fitting. Custom made menus that stand out and fit the theme of the specific pages (using blue as an accent colour more generously) are always going to look better and feel more enjoyable to navigate! For example: the wiki was "okay" before this redesign (in terms of its content and success in delivering information), yet now it looks far better and feels far better to navigate. There are always ways to improve—some easier than others—but I believe that handcrafted and purpose-built design trumps the easy solution for areas that deserve the extra love. [[File:Hero Cosmos small.png|link=user:phasma|→ Phasma]] 03:50, 21 March 2025 (UTC)
#* Additionally, looking good and stylish is far better than looking "okay" - the easy-to-create classic menus are okay and they serve their purpose, especially now that they're correctly styled with the new CSS, but they are the bare minimum: functional, legible, easy to interact with, and stylistically fitting. Custom made menus that stand out and fit the theme of the specific pages (using blue as an accent colour more generously) are always going to look better and feel more enjoyable to navigate! For example: the wiki was "okay" before this redesign (in terms of its content and success in delivering information), yet now it looks far better and feels far better to navigate. There are always ways to improve—some easier than others—but I believe that handcrafted and purpose-built design trumps the easy solution for areas that deserve the extra love. [[File:Hero Cosmos small.png|link=user:phasma|→ Phasma]] 03:50, 21 March 2025 (UTC)
#* Ok, sounds good. Just wanted to make sure it wasn't a burden to keep remaking them. Another housekeeping thing - those sidebars use the blue leather for the whole thing, whereas the other sidebars (currently) use mostly brown leather with an accent color for the primary header(s). Assuming we had perfect coding ability, would you prefer all the sidebars to have the blue leather for all the table rows? --[[User:Legate|Legate]] ([[User talk:Legate|talk]]) 14:42, 21 March 2025 (UTC)
#* Ok, sounds good. Just wanted to make sure it wasn't a burden to keep remaking them. Another housekeeping thing - those sidebars use the blue leather for the whole thing, whereas the other sidebars (currently) use mostly brown leather with an accent color for the primary header(s). Assuming we had perfect coding ability, would you prefer all the sidebars to have the blue leather for all the table rows? --[[User:Legate|Legate]] ([[User talk:Legate|talk]]) 14:42, 21 March 2025 (UTC)
#** I think the default leather is fine as the tables are situated on top of dark default leather. I've tried all 3 blue leathers in tables and they look out of place in anywhere that isn't a simple small gold bordered table, which is almost anywhere that isn't a sidebar or main table. [[File:Hero Cosmos small.png|link=user:phasma|→ Phasma]] 18:11, 21 March 2025 (UTC)
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General/Ongoing

  1. Help clear the Maintenance Reports for unused/broken/wanted items!
  2. Check out and verify Trivia#Unverified Claims
  3. Look for pages that need help and report them here (e.g. unreadable color scheme in "Aesthetics", missing info in "Missing Info")
    • Also report if data for an expansion is shown improperly (e.g. HotA functional data is seen when HotA is disabled via the switch on the top or left (Lore should always be visible)). Report these issues here in "Standardization".
  4. Use {{unk}} to mark text we need to fill in. That way all the unknown text will link to that template!
    • Also, help clear the pages linking to the template by filling in the missing info.
  5. Record any in-game bugs found here: List of bugs (HotA)

Hota v1.7.2 - (Changelog)

Happy New Year! The Hota team dropped a new release with some updated secondary skills, specialties and a new campaign!

  1. Kinkeria - update learning table (In Progress: See Template: LTheader, Template: LTrow)
    • Need to investigate: Do heroes who start with learning start at level 2, or do they miss out on the level bump from basic learning?
      • They start at level 1, and they don't level bump at their first level-up if selecting something else than Advanced Learning then. However, they do start with a bonus 1000 XP, so they get a level up immediately after the first XP gain.
    • Let's discuss this on Discord at some point...I have a spreadsheet that attempts to figure this out, but it is quite complicated. See Talk: Learning for some notes so far. --Legate (talk) 16:29, 21 February 2025 (UTC)
  2. Lots of event/quest/text changes to all hota campaigns.
    • Any thoughts on the best way to approach this? If we can get text files of the events/quests from v1.7.1 and v1.7.2, we can use a text-diffing tool to see what needs to be updated. Manually reading through the text in-game would take a long time... --Legate (talk) 14:40, 20 March 2025 (UTC)
      • Potentially this tool could be useful if it was updated to allow converting maps in hota formats. Unfortunately, the author says he has no interest in adding support for other versions or mods. --Turnam (talk) 16:31, 20 March 2025 (UTC)

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Upcoming!

Major fan-made expansions in the works that we are monitoring.

  1. Horn of the Abyss Horn of the Abyss (update): Bulwark
  2. Day of Reckoning Day of Reckoning (initial release): Day of Reckoning

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  • For table rows, just add this to the row: |- class='onlyhota'
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