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#* Also, help clear the pages linking to the template by filling in the missing info.
#* Also, help clear the pages linking to the template by filling in the missing info.
# Record any in-game bugs found here: [[List of bugs (HotA)]]
# Record any in-game bugs found here: [[List of bugs (HotA)]]
It seems something went wrong with the server today. All the JS code and other special niceties don't work anymore on Waterfox and Chrome (still works with Edge, though), some pages are broken (regardless of browser), e.g. [[Cove]] which pretends that {{tl|TownNew}} does not exist, or [[List of creatures]] which is likewise a sea of red template calls), and on browsers where the new theme doesn't show, there's a message that says <tt> Deprecated: Use of MediaWiki\Parser\Parser::$tabsData was deprecated in MediaWiki 1.42. [Called from Tabs::init in /var/www/html/extensions/Tabs/includes/Tabs.php at line 35] in /var/www/html/includes/debug/MWDebug.php on line 385</tt> on the top of the page. --[[User:Turnam|Turnam]] ([[User talk:Turnam|talk]]) 17:49, 25 March 2025 (UTC)
:[[Special:Version]] 1.40 was end of life. So Terra upgraded to 1.43. We should be able to clear up these issues eventually. –[[user_talk:imahero|imahero]] 18:18, 25 March 2025 (UTC)
::The TownNew/Cove/List of creatures, issues were caching issues that I've seen occasionally. I fixed them by renaming a template and saving then renaming back. This allows the page to recompile its templates. –[[user_talk:imahero|imahero]] 18:21, 25 March 2025 (UTC)
:::If it's just a caching issue, then purging the page is enough to solve the problem without having to do an edit. If you don't have the option to purge, then you can force it by changing the URL. Go to edit the page, then replace <tt>action=edit</tt> in the URL bar with <tt>action=purge</tt>, and hit enter, and click to confirm the purge request. --[[User:Turnam|Turnam]] ([[User talk:Turnam|talk]]) 19:02, 25 March 2025 (UTC)
::::Also, the upgrade script is still running. Probably be some bumps until it finally finishes. –[[user_talk:imahero|imahero]] 20:09, 25 March 2025 (UTC)


= Hota v1.7.2 - ([[Horn of the Abyss (Changelog)|Changelog]]) =
= Hota v1.7.2 - ([[Horn of the Abyss (Changelog)|Changelog]]) =
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# Information from [https://www.celestialheavens.com/forum/topic/17752 this forum post] may prove useful for assorted bits of information.
# Information from [https://www.celestialheavens.com/forum/topic/17752 this forum post] may prove useful for assorted bits of information.
# Update lore for characters that are mentioned or appear in {{homm4}}.
# Update lore for characters that are mentioned or appear in {{homm4}}.
# Fill out [[Foolhardy Waywardness references]]
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== File upload/editing ==
== File upload/editing ==
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= Wiki =
= Wiki =
{{About|Anything related to the maintenance or improvement of this wiki.}}
{{About|Anything related to the maintenance or improvement of this wiki.}}
== Tabs vs TabberNeue ==
#Look into switching over to [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:TabberNeue TabberNeue] since the [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Tabs Tabs] extension may not be available in future MediaWiki versions.


== Standardization ==
== Standardization ==
{{About|Parts of the wiki that don't match related parts of the wiki.}}
{{About|Parts of the wiki that don't match related parts of the wiki.}}
# [https://old.reddit.com/r/heroes3/comments/1jfvc0e/heroes_3_artbook_sketchbook_chinese_get_it_here/ There's a Chinese HoMM3 manual] available, with original art for all heroes, skills, creatures, buildings, and map objects. Do you think its pictures could be added to the relevant articles' galleries?
# [https://old.reddit.com/r/heroes3/comments/1jfvc0e/heroes_3_artbook_sketchbook_chinese_get_it_here/ There's a Chinese HoMM3 manual] available, with original art for all heroes, skills, creatures, buildings, and map objects. Do you think its pictures could be added to the relevant articles' galleries?
#* See [[:Category:Chinese Artbook]].


== Aesthetics ==
== Aesthetics ==
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# [[Template Editor]]: This page has long lists of numbers. Could benefit from turning a lot of this info into a table (and maybe add a few pictures).
# [[Template Editor]]: This page has long lists of numbers. Could benefit from turning a lot of this info into a table (and maybe add a few pictures).
# Scrolling left-right on a page causes the left sidebar to overlay the page text. See [[Grail]] for an example (may need to make the browser window smaller to see the scrollbar).
# Scrolling left-right on a page causes the left sidebar to overlay the page text. See [[Grail]] for an example (may need to make the browser window smaller to see the scrollbar).
#* I tried setting the table max-width to 100% in css. Let me know if this causes any issues anywhere. –[[user_talk:imahero|imahero]] 21:16, 22 March 2025 (UTC)
#* I tried setting the table max-width to 100% in css. It allows tables to compress further. Images still prevent further compression of the table. So we should see this issue less often. –[[user_talk:imahero|imahero]] 21:16, 22 March 2025 (UTC)


== Template (advanced) ==
== Template (advanced) ==
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# Are we at the point of making this the default yet?!?!?! (Looks great Phasma!)
# Are we at the point of making this the default yet?!?!?! (Looks great Phasma!)
#* Wikitables could use a little work (they seem to keep their colors for headers even when not marked important.
#* Wikitables could use a little work (they seem to keep their colors for headers even when not marked important.
#* I set it as default since it hides the deprecation warning. –[[user_talk:imahero|imahero]] 20:48, 25 March 2025 (UTC)


=== H3CSS Additions ===
=== H3CSS Additions ===
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* See [[User:ShushMaster]] and [[User:Legate]] for additional tricks.
* See [[User:ShushMaster]] and [[User:Legate]] for additional tricks.
* Use [[Template:Exist]] instead of #ifexist. Anything checked by #ifexist erroneously shows up on the missing files report if it doesn't exist!
* Use [[Template:Exist]] instead of #ifexist. Anything checked by #ifexist erroneously shows up on the missing files report if it doesn't exist!
* Beware of caching issues with templates. If something isn't updating the way you think it ought to, remove the template from the page and then re-add it.
* Beware of caching issues with templates. If something isn't updating the way you think it ought to, rename a template on the page, save the page and then rename it back. (Or use the More dropdown and choose Purge.)


[[Category:Contributor resources]]
[[Category:Contributor resources]]

Revision as of 21:09, 25 March 2025

Welcome! This page contains everything we want to do to improve this wiki. Whether you are an experienced Mediawiki/CSS editor, someone who knows the Might & Magic lore or just someone who wants to help/learn, we are glad you're here. Don't worry about making mistakes or stepping on someone's toes - we all were there at some point!

If you'd like to discuss things in more detail, please join our discord server.

General/Ongoing

  1. Help clear the Maintenance Reports for unused/broken/wanted items!
  2. Check out and verify Trivia#Unverified Claims
  3. Look for pages that need help and report them here (e.g. unreadable color scheme in "Aesthetics", missing info in "Missing Info")
    • Also report if data for an expansion is shown improperly (e.g. HotA functional data is seen when HotA is disabled via the switch on the top or left (Lore should always be visible)). Report these issues here in "Standardization".
  4. Use {{unk}} to mark text we need to fill in. That way all the unknown text will link to that template!
    • Also, help clear the pages linking to the template by filling in the missing info.
  5. Record any in-game bugs found here: List of bugs (HotA)

It seems something went wrong with the server today. All the JS code and other special niceties don't work anymore on Waterfox and Chrome (still works with Edge, though), some pages are broken (regardless of browser), e.g. Cove which pretends that {{TownNew}} does not exist, or List of creatures which is likewise a sea of red template calls), and on browsers where the new theme doesn't show, there's a message that says Deprecated: Use of MediaWiki\Parser\Parser::$tabsData was deprecated in MediaWiki 1.42. [Called from Tabs::init in /var/www/html/extensions/Tabs/includes/Tabs.php at line 35] in /var/www/html/includes/debug/MWDebug.php on line 385 on the top of the page. --Turnam (talk) 17:49, 25 March 2025 (UTC)

Special:Version 1.40 was end of life. So Terra upgraded to 1.43. We should be able to clear up these issues eventually. –imahero 18:18, 25 March 2025 (UTC)
The TownNew/Cove/List of creatures, issues were caching issues that I've seen occasionally. I fixed them by renaming a template and saving then renaming back. This allows the page to recompile its templates. –imahero 18:21, 25 March 2025 (UTC)
If it's just a caching issue, then purging the page is enough to solve the problem without having to do an edit. If you don't have the option to purge, then you can force it by changing the URL. Go to edit the page, then replace action=edit in the URL bar with action=purge, and hit enter, and click to confirm the purge request. --Turnam (talk) 19:02, 25 March 2025 (UTC)
Also, the upgrade script is still running. Probably be some bumps until it finally finishes. –imahero 20:09, 25 March 2025 (UTC)

Hota v1.7.2 - (Changelog)

Happy New Year! The Hota team dropped a new release with some updated secondary skills, specialties and a new campaign!

  1. Kinkeria - update learning table (In Progress: See Template: LTheader, Template: LTrow)
    • Need to investigate: Do heroes who start with learning start at level 2, or do they miss out on the level bump from basic learning?
      • They start at level 1, and they don't level bump at their first level-up if selecting something else than Advanced Learning then. However, they do start with a bonus 1000 XP, so they get a level up immediately after the first XP gain.
    • Let's discuss this on Discord at some point...I have a spreadsheet that attempts to figure this out, but it is quite complicated. See Talk: Learning for some notes so far. --Legate (talk) 16:29, 21 February 2025 (UTC)
  2. Lots of event/quest/text changes to all hota campaigns.
    • Any thoughts on the best way to approach this? If we can get text files of the events/quests from v1.7.1 and v1.7.2, we can use a text-diffing tool to see what needs to be updated. Manually reading through the text in-game would take a long time... --Legate (talk) 14:40, 20 March 2025 (UTC)
      • Potentially this tool could be useful if it was updated to allow converting maps in hota formats. Unfortunately, the author says he has no interest in adding support for other versions or mods. --Turnam (talk) 16:31, 20 March 2025 (UTC)

Gameplay Info

Lore

Tools

Wiki

Low Priority/Backburner

Upcoming!

Major fan-made expansions in the works that we are monitoring.

  1. Horn of the Abyss Horn of the Abyss (update): Bulwark
  2. Day of Reckoning Day of Reckoning (initial release): Day of Reckoning

How To

Content Switches

Hide all HotA / DoR game content (not lore content) when not enabled.

  • For table rows, just add this to the row: |- class='onlyhota'
  • For most other content just use: {{showwithhota|content}}. Can also use {{swh|HotaOnlyContent|SodOnlyContent}}.
  • In some circumstances, you might need to use: <span class='onlyhota'>content</span>
  • For lists, use: <ul class='onlyhota'><li>item</li><li>other item</li></ul>. For numbered lists, swap "ul" to "ol".
  • See User:Imahero/hide for more examples.

File Uploading

  • In a command terminal run: "oxipng -o 6 -s -r ." to losslessly compress all png images: github.com/shssoichiro/oxipng
  • Animated png files will play on pages if they are full size. Animated gif files will play regardless.

Mediawiki Tips/Tricks

  • List Numbering
    • Use "#*" to add a comment to an item without breaking the numbering.
    • Use <li value="your_number_here"></li> to restart a numeric list if there are breaks in between the numbers (e.g. comments).
  • Comments: Use "<!--your comment here-->" to add comments to a page that can only be seen when editing.
  • See User:ShushMaster and User:Legate for additional tricks.
  • Use Template:Exist instead of #ifexist. Anything checked by #ifexist erroneously shows up on the missing files report if it doesn't exist!
  • Beware of caching issues with templates. If something isn't updating the way you think it ought to, rename a template on the page, save the page and then rename it back. (Or use the More dropdown and choose Purge.)